Another Whiney Butt Appointment Poll--Jeff Sessions

[Shadow Wolf]

Research smeersearch.....no one forces me to buy anything....

We aren't talking about you, but society in general, as a whole.

except Obamcare health insurance.

You're also required to buy auto insurance, and I would imagine some other insurances, permits, and other things for your business.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There's no country where such "conditioning" has ever happened without big black boots on many necks.

Without these "black boots," we are conditioned into American exceptionalism, we are conditioned into a respect of the troops that borders on worship, we are conditioned that our ways are the best ways, we are even conditioned to function within a Capitalist economy.

 

[Revoltingest]

We aren't talking about you, but society in general, as a whole.

You're also required to buy auto insurance, and I would imagine some other insurances, permits, and other things for your business.

No one forces anyone to buy consumer goods, toys, etc.
Anyone who thinks companies are forcing'm is weak.

 

[Revoltingest]

Without these "black boots," we are conditioned into American exceptionalism, we are conditioned into a respect of the troops that borders on worship, we are conditioned that our ways are the best ways, we are even conditioned to function within a Capitalist economy.

I'd rather be conditioned to function in a capitalist economy than
a Soviet, N Korean, Cuban or other socialist/commie economy.
Our 'oppression' is of much better quality.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No one forces anyone to buy consumer goods, toys, etc.
Anyone who thinks companies are forcing'm is weak.

I never said "forced." Rather, I pointed out that companies tell people to go buy, and people go buy. They aren't forcing them to, but they are manipulating them nevertheless.

 

[idav]

OK, would I be a whiney-butt for protesting the appointment of someone as an Attorney General (main legal advisor to the government) who says that grabbing someone by their genitals is not sexual assault? (As Jeff Sessions said just over a month ago.)

Where in the world is Trump digging up all the pond scum from?

 

[Revoltingest]

I never said "forced." Rather, I pointed out that companies tell people to go buy, and people go buy. They aren't forcing them to, but they are manipulating them nevertheless.

Anyone who cannot rise above manipulation is weak.
If these weaklings suffer under capitalism, imagine how they'll fare under communism..

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anyone who cannot rise above manipulation is weak.
If these weaklings suffer under capitalism, imagine how they'll fare under communism..

That's not how it works. You are denying mountains of research and closely watched trends, data, and results. Companies pump tons of money into marketing and advertising research and millions more into advertising based on that research because it has a strong record of being effective.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's not how it works. You are denying mountains of research and closely watched trends, data, and results. Companies pump tons of money into marketing and advertising research and millions more into advertising based on that research because it has a strong record of being effective.

Mountains of research show that all efforts to implement communism for
a country's economy result in famine, oppression, & really awful slogans.
And then, there isn't even possible to over-consume during long term
famine & general privation. So I prefer the option of succumbing to or
avoiding the effects of advertising.

 

[crossfire]

Where in the world is Trump digging up all the pond scum from?

Hopefully this will also follow the pond scum cycle--it gets scraped off the bottom, floats to the top, then is broken down by the light, and then sinks and decays. If so, it would be our job to shed as much light on it as possible so it can get broken down and decay.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Mountains of research show that all efforts to implement communism for
a country's economy result in famine, oppression, & really awful slogans.
And then, there isn't even possible to over-consume during long term
famine & general privation.

We can also find health care, improved literacy and education, access to transportation, and gains in women's rights. And, again, there is no inherent reason for anything of those things listed (yours and mine) to be inherent. We also have made mind boggling and staggering advances in technology since the end of Soviet Russia, and we are sorely overdue for updating our social models from Industrial to a true post-Industrial/Information Revolution age. By necessity, Capitalism will have to be greatly and significantly diminished because machines are going to be doing most of the work for us - basically, we'll be a "slave society" of sorts with the advantage of doing little actual work ourselves but minus the slave part. Engineering will probably know a period of gains and prosperity like never before, because it will be one of the main/regular "jobs" of this updated economy and social models we are in dire need of because we are still going to have to work on the machines doing our work. And, let's be honest, no one in history has had the potential for the ease of GPS-self-guided agriculture. 3D printers also open up a whole new world of possibilities. Technically, we don't even actually need paper anymore (though it would be foolish to do away with it entirely). Society needs updated based around technology, and it's going to be hard for Capitalism as we know it if all the proletariat labor and a huge chunk of the lesser-bourgeois' daily chores are performed by machines.

 

[Revoltingest]

We can also find health care, improved literacy and education, access to transportation, and gains in women's rights. And, again, there is no inherent reason for anything of those things listed (yours and mine) to be inherent. We also have made mind boggling and staggering advances in technology since the end of Soviet Russia, and we are sorely overdue for updating our social models from Industrial to a true post-Industrial/Information Revolution age. By necessity, Capitalism will have to be greatly and significantly diminished because machines are going to be doing most of the work for us - basically, we'll be a "slave society" of sorts with the advantage of doing little actual work ourselves but minus the slave part. Engineering will probably know a period of gains and prosperity like never before, because it will be one of the main/regular "jobs" of this updated economy and social models we are in dire need of because we are still going to have to work on the machines doing our work. And, let's be honest, no one in history has had the potential for the ease of GPS-self-guided agriculture. 3D printers also open up a whole new world of possibilities. Technically, we don't even actually need paper anymore (though it would be foolish to do away with it entirely). Society needs updated based around technology, and it's going to be hard for Capitalism as we know it if all the proletariat labor and a huge chunk of the lesser-bourgeois' daily chores are performed by machines.

What communist countries had improved health care?
Why care about only women's rights?

 

[Lyndon]

I think Cuba has better health care than the USA. Maybe not the high tech stuff, but everyone covered.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think Cuba has better health care than the USA. Maybe not the high tech stuff, but everyone covered.

We have better care here (for those who count).

 

[Neo Deist]

OK, would I be a whiney-butt for protesting the appointment of someone as an Attorney General (main legal advisor to the government) who says that grabbing someone by their genitals is not sexual assault? (As Jeff Sessions said just over a month ago.)

Yes you are a whiney butt.

Sexual assault differs from state to state. Groping a woman *might* be considered sexual assault in some states, but in other states it would be classified as physical harassment, such as it is in Alabama where Jeff Sessions is from. I explained this in another thread where you made a similar comment. Apparently you did not understand it then either.

Get off the bandwagon already.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Groping a woman *might* be considered sexual assault in some states, but in other states it would be classified as physical harassment

A lack of domestic violence laws doesn't mean domestic violence is something else just because of legal wording. You grope someone in a sexual way without consent, you have sexually assaulted that person.

 

[fantome profane]

Yes you are a whiney butt.

Sexual assault differs from state to state. Groping a woman *might* be considered sexual assault in some states, but in other states it would be classified as physical harassment, such as it is in Alabama where Jeff Sessions is from. I explained this in another thread where you made a similar comment. Apparently you did not understand it then either.

Get off the bandwagon already.

And in Saudi Arabia when a woman gets raped she is the one who will most likely get arrested and go to jail. But that does not mean it is right. Grabbing a woman by the ***** without her consent is assault. And if there are some places in the U.S. that don't recognise that fact (I am sceptical btw) then shame on the U.S. And shame on Sessions if he does not understand this.

 

[Neo Deist]

A lack of domestic violence laws doesn't mean domestic violence is something else just because of legal wording. You grope someone in a sexual way without consent, you have sexually assaulted that person.

Well since you have spoken, I guess all the states can now update their laws accordingly.

By your definition, any time one athlete slaps another on the *** after a good play, that is sexual assault.

 

[Neo Deist]

And shame on Sessions if he does not understand this.

That is not what he was referring to. Here is a follow-up from Jeff Sessions:

"The Weekly Standard's characterization of comments I made following Sunday's Presidential debate is completely inaccurate. My hesitation was based solely on confusion of the contents of the 2005 tape and the hypothetical posed by the reporter, which was asked in a chaotic post-debate environment. I regret that it resulted in an inaccurate article that misrepresented my views. Of course it is crystal clear that assault is unacceptable. I would never intentionally suggest otherwise."

In other words, Jeff did not know all the details behind the alleged tape and was not sure if it was sexual assault or not because he did not know the full story. He did not have a knee jerk reaction and jump to conclusions, unlike so many other people.

 

[crossfire]

Yes you are a whiney butt.

Sexual assault differs from state to state. Groping a woman *might* be considered sexual assault in some states, but in other states it would be classified as physical harassment, such as it is in Alabama where Jeff Sessions is from. I explained this in another thread where you made a similar comment. Apparently you did not understand it then either.

Get off the bandwagon already.

I still have great concerns about his being AG, and will continue to be a whiney butt about it. I highly encourage others to be whiney butts about it to their Senators, as well.