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Anti-Islamic Sentiment on RF

Baydwin

Well-Known Member
Many Americans also feel that the Muslim world never gave us the proper credit for our action to bring the killing to an end.
Sure, but it kinda pales in comparison to the Western exploitation of oil-rich Muslim states over the years.
Perhaps Muslims would be more inclined to acknowledge the good Western states do for them were we to let them develop at their own pace and according to their own culture, rather than milking them dry and leaving them to rot under the rule of despots we help to power?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Sure, but it kinda pales in comparison to the Western exploitation of oil-rich Muslim states over the years.
Perhaps Muslims would be more inclined to acknowledge the good Western states do for them were we to let them develop at their own pace and according to their own culture, rather than milking them dry and leaving them to rot under the rule of despots we help to power?
It is hard for me to generate sympathy for people we have given 7 + TRILLION dollars to since the 1970's. Cry me a river.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Sure, but it kinda pales in comparison to the Western exploitation of oil-rich Muslim states over the years.
Perhaps Muslims would be more inclined to acknowledge the good Western states do for them were we to let them develop at their own pace and according to their own culture, rather than milking them dry and leaving them to rot under the rule of despots we help to power?

Good behavior should be recognized by all. Genocide is not a small matter and should not be overlooked by anybody.

Now its more like western countries support of Muslim Governments that exploit their people. In the past there was a lot of American exploitation. The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussan being our man ect.... This ended around 20 years ago. We have an addiction to oil. Oil money keeps despots in power. Its easy to talk on this subject. Action is more important. Things like taking public Transit and walking is what counts. This ends our support for despots.

Islam had a great civilization at one time. It is time for them to become like the other non-european civilization that have learned to become players in the new world economy. Both China and India are on the up swing. It is possible for Muslim Countries to do the same.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Good behavior should be recognized by all. Genocide is not a small matter and should not be overlooked by anybody.
And when the "good behavior" comes later from those with a penchant for genocidal binging?

Now its more like western countries support of Muslim Governments that exploit their people.
They are reaping what they have sown; nothing more, nothing less. Payback is a bytch, ain't it?

In the past there was a lot of American exploitation. The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussan being our man ect.... This ended around 20 years ago. We have an addiction to oil. Oil money keeps despots in power. Its easy to talk on this subject. Action is more important. Things like taking public Transit and walking is what counts. This ends our support for despots.
No doubt their zealous replacements will thrill us to bits. What then? What happens when a bunch of Muslims setup their own private nirvana, following Sharia to the letter and live exemplary lives in accordance to the teachings of their prophet -- and fail miserably. Then what? We say, "Ayatolla so!"

Islam had a great civilization at one time.
It is unlikely that those who saw the waves of Muslim armies coming to spread Islam would be inclined to agree. After they were routed, it is true that things settled down. It's funny how fine a society can purr under the jackboot of totalitarianism.

It is time for them to become like the other non-european civilization that have learned to become players in the new world economy. Both China and India are on the up swing. It is possible for Muslim Countries to do the same.
I'm not inclined to hold my breath.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Yes the ethnic cleansing of the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosavo was very shameful for the west. You also need to remember that it was American troops who put it to an end to this evil. Many Americans also feel that the Muslim world never gave us the proper credit for our action to bring the killing to an end.

you mean the killings that took place in Kosovo and Bosnia? they would have been better of that way than to be prisoners of the US now.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Would you clarify this statement? Because right now it sounds evil.

let me put it in other words

those that died during the war were the lucky ones. those that are living must obey the US. Kosovo as well as Bosnia and Albania are muslim majority countries but the US controls what happenes there, they are not permited to become islamic like the other countries. on top of other things. such as taking the underground riches like gold for example. you can search google for yourself if you don't believe me. type in gold fields in Kosovo and you will see. not that it says the US is taking it but just to show you that it is a gold rich country. all the albanian wealth goes to the US.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
let me put it in other words

those that died during the war were the lucky ones. those that are living must obey the US. Kosovo as well as Bosnia and Albania are muslim majority countries but the US controls what happenes there, they are not permited to become islamic like the other countries. on top of other things. such as taking the underground riches like gold for example. you can search google for yourself if you don't believe me. type in gold fields in Kosovo and you will see. not that it says the US is taking it but just to show you that it is a gold rich country. all the albanian wealth goes to the US.

Wow, if this is Islam, it's worse than I thought.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
let me put it in other words
those that died during the war were the lucky ones. those that are living must obey the US.


I did not support the war in Iraq. I want us to get out of their as fast as possible. At the same time remember that in the cases of Japan, Germany and Korea we did rebuild there countries. I wish the people of Iraq peace.

Kosovo as well as Bosnia and Albania are muslim majority countries but the US controls what happenes there, they are not permited to become islamic like the other countries. on top of other things. such as taking the underground riches like gold for example. you can search google for yourself if you don't believe me. type in gold fields in Kosovo and you will see. not that it says the US is taking it but just to show you that it is a gold rich country. all the albanian wealth goes to the US.

I do not believe that America has control over Albania. You are going to have to come up with good sources to convince me other wise.

I can also tell you that the problems in Bosnia and Kosovo comes from the serb side of the war. They want us out of there country. The few Americans that have died have been killed by Serbs. From what I can tell most Muslims are happy with us.
 

kai

ragamuffin
Yes the ethnic cleansing of the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosavo was very shameful for the west. You also need to remember that it was American troops who put it to an end to this evil. Many Americans also feel that the Muslim world never gave us the proper credit for our action to bring the killing to an end.

and British troops, thank you very much.
 

kai

ragamuffin
let me put it in other words

those that died during the war were the lucky ones. those that are living must obey the US. Kosovo as well as Bosnia and Albania are muslim majority countries but the US controls what happenes there, they are not permited to become islamic like the other countries. on top of other things. such as taking the underground riches like gold for example. you can search google for yourself if you don't believe me. type in gold fields in Kosovo and you will see. not that it says the US is taking it but just to show you that it is a gold rich country. all the albanian wealth goes to the US.

This makes no sense what so ever???????? Unless you are looking back to those halcyon days of the Ottoman empire?
 
This makes no sense what so ever???????? Unless you are looking back to those halcyon days of the Ottoman empire?

The Ottomans were not so bad,
Though Sunnite, a fact that is sad
For Alevis and others who
Looked to the cem with Allah Hu.

The Ottomans were not so bad,
Except Armenians were not glad
After the troubles that they had:
Say no more and not be a cad.

The Ottomans were not the best
Perhaps, but give Sultans a rest:
They gave to each minority
The chance to rule themselves in fee.

As I compare Ottoman doom
To the empires that we gave room
After their fall, nostalgia makes
Me look back on Ottoman stakes.

At least they left the Jews alive,
Although a few of those contrive
To be among Dönme and strive
To hold their own within the hive.

Not bad as empires go, I think,
Though since I don't live on the brink
Of Ottoman power where I drink,
Who is to say after the stink?
 

maro

muslimah
Many Americans also feel that the Muslim world never gave us the proper credit for our action to bring the killing to an end.

in 1973 ,the U.S threatened Egypt and Syria to take part in the war unless the fight stops immediately..and that was FEW HOURS after it started....On the other side , the american kindness was very late to the Bosnians...Mr. Bill clinton kept playing games untill thousands of muslims were eradicated.

The serbs were armed to the teeth ,while the bosnians were weaponless....and yet ,he kept parrotting that no one should supply *the fighting parties* with weapons ,so as not to ignite *the fight*....in other words ,no one should supply the bosnians with weapons to defend themselves..and the serbs should be granted some time to accomplish their mission of massacring thousands of unarmed people

so ,what proper credit is expected from us ? to show our gratefulness that they were not millions ?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I did not support the war in Iraq. I want us to get out of their as fast as possible. At the same time remember that in the cases of Japan, Germany and Korea we did rebuild there countries. I wish the people of Iraq peace.

thats right you rebiult them, but first you destroyed them AND THEN you rebuilt them to what you (the US) wanted.


I do not believe that America has control over Albania. You are going to have to come up with good sources to convince me other wise.

i'm albanian myself. it controls the albanians of albania, those of kosovo and those of macedonia.

I can also tell you that the problems in Bosnia and Kosovo comes from the serb side of the war. They want us out of there country. The few Americans that have died have been killed by Serbs. From what I can tell most Muslims are happy with us.

no muslims are not happy at all. the leaders of these countries are puppets of the US and if anyone dares to be against that, they'd get killed along with their family going through hell. you see albania has been a target for many countries (the ottoman empire, the germans during world war 1 and 2, the italians, the serbs and some others i think). we have been fighting off invaders for hundreds of years and we have always won. the same was going to happen with the serbs, but the US jumped in and now it's ripping the hell out of kosovos riches because it provided us with some weapons. we didn't have a problem in that department, the albanian comunist leader fooled both china and russia and took pretty much all their weapons for free he was siding with both countries in secret.
 
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