Anti-Islamic Sentiment on RF

[Autodidact]

one example is we are not allowed to have good relations with any country we want, the US decides that. they are soposedly teaching us how to fire weapons, how ironic, the US didn't exist when albanians were fighting wars. they are insulting us, with their "donations".

I meant, such as what countries do you think the U.S. controls?

 

[.lava]

I meant, such as what countries do you think the U.S. controls?

count Turkey as one. it is a shame half of airplanes that bomb Muslim nations rest in Incirlik. that sickens me

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[Autodidact]

count Turkey as one. it is a shame half of airplanes that bomb Muslim nations rest in Incirlik. that sickens me

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O.K., Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy, is it not? Turks elect their leaders, do they not? Non-Turkish American citizens are not allowed to vote for Turkish leaders, are they?

 

[.lava]

O.K., Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy, is it not? Turks elect their leaders, do they not? Non-Turkish American citizens are not allowed to vote for Turkish leaders, are they?

they buy people. what's there you don't get?

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[Caladan]

O.K., Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy, is it not? Turks elect their leaders, do they not? Non-Turkish American citizens are not allowed to vote for Turkish leaders, are they?

Auto, are you implying that nations and governments have self interests and are not a mere reflection and tools of external evil imperial forces? that they reflect something of the population, that they have public sectors?

 

[Autodidact]

they buy people. what's there you don't get?

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In that case, you need to address the problem of corruption in your government.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

albania isn't a middle eastern country, has nothing to do with the jews (if thast who you are reffering to). the Slavs are our zionists. the US is just benefiting from our missfortune of wars.

Give me some good sources like newspapers to prove you point. They need to be valued and well respected.

 

[Gharib]

Give me some good sources like newspapers to prove you point. They need to be valued and well respected.

what kind of sources like the one below

New Kosova Report - Kosovo - a land of gold

 

[England my lionheart]

it is doing of betrayals. they are among us and they are the ones who sold out their own people. Western would not have any power if these betrayal did not exist. so, no need to try to play fool around, EML. btw your logic disappears when it comes Palestine since you also say killings of Israel is fault of Hamas. for some reason pointing finger works for that subject, doesn't it?

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Who are "they",who sold out their own people,i don't get it,Western would not have power if they did'nt exist?,i get my facts from cross referenced history where do you get yours? as for Hamas all i have done is show the history of the conflict and that it started not with the establishment of Israel as a State but as far back as the 20's,sometimes some facts are hard to swallow,i find the fact that the then British Government gave amnesty to Amin Al Husseini a known war criminal and central figure of the MB very disgusting however Governments change Hamas and its ideology does not.

 

[England my lionheart]

well you don't see albanians butting in when there is a crisis within one country do you?

For obvious reasons Esalam Albania has'nt got the resources or ability to do so

 

[YmirGF]

For obvious reasons Esalam Albania has'nt got the resources or ability to do so

Thanks to the Ottomans, The Turks and finally the Soviet Union.

 

[Gharib]

For obvious reasons Esalam Albania has'nt got the resources or ability to do so

even if we did, our help would not come at a price.

 

[Gharib]

For obvious reasons Esalam Albania has'nt got the resources or ability to do so

in the 14 hundreds when the albanians faught off the corrupt ottoman empire our army went to austria to help the austrians against them, well our king died in austria, but don't know if thats the country he went to help. his sword, helmet and chair are in an ausrtian museum.

 

[England my lionheart]

even if we did, our help would not come at a price.

So you are saying that the West are mercenary that the Aide given recently to Haiti comes at a price,after all it is a crisis

 

[Gharib]

So you are saying that the West are mercenary that the Aide given recently to Haiti comes at a price,after all it is a crisis

the kosovo war was a crisis wasn't it? that came at a price, why should this be any different?

 

[England my lionheart]

the kosovo war was a crisis wasn't it? that came at a price, why should this be any different?

It may surprise you to know that Britain is still paying back loans for fighting in WW2.

 

[Gharib]

It may surprise you to know that Britain is still paying back loans for fighting in WW2.

good for them.

 

[England my lionheart]

good for them.

I'm not asking for a pat on the back for Britain Esalam

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

in 1973 ,the U.S threatened Egypt and Syria to take part in the war unless the fight stops immediately..and that was FEW HOURS after it started....On the other side , the american kindness was very late to the Bosnians...Mr. Bill clinton kept playing games until thousands of muslims were eradicated.

It true that American kindness was late in coming, but it came, were was the kindness from muslim countries they were of no help.

.and the serbs should be granted some time to accomplish their mission of massacring thousands of unarmed people

Believe it our not. The help was late in coming because America and Europe did not want to get in another war. The American people needed to be fooled to go to Iraq and that was only possible because of 9/11.

so ,what proper credit is expected from us ? to show our gratefulness that they were not millions ?

It seems to me we all must have a high regard for the truth. Goodness is goodness even if our opponents do it. It seems to me that you have a bias and you are more then willing do distort the truth to that bias. God is truth. with out truth faith is lost. I say truth for truth sake is the highest religion.

I can also tell you that I have many problems with American policies that affect the Muslim people. Many of these problem policies are due to world economic groups not the American people. You seem to use the term America as a blanket statement for all that is wrong with the world. We don't have that much power.

You also talk about us buying people off. It's true it happens all over the world including America. The fact is that if people are offered a chance to be wealthy and secular or religious and poor. Most people will be secular this is a fact.

I like living in a secular country, it provides me with less religious corruption. I am able to live my life of faith in a more pure way.I can also tell you that many Muslims in America feel the same way

 

[Gharib]

It true that American kindness was late in coming, but it came, were was the kindness from muslim countries they were of no help.

incorrect statement, the muslims did help. there were arabs fighting in bosnia against the serbs.