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Anti-trans bill passes in Kentucky

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No Slack
No, you keep forgetting that "most of the experts on everything" are NOT elected politicians.

Look, you are so inconsistent sometimes it boggles the mind. Above, you complained that the medical profession should not be involved in making decisions (or helping parents make decisions) about gender dysphoria, because "they are a business." For that reason, you are content to leave it to politicians to "regulate" them. But you don't want other businesses regulated (like the financial industry, or those destroying our ecosystems) -- that would be antithetical to your view of "liberty."

Can you see the inconsistency? What do you suppose is the reason for it? Is it because this is about sex -- which religions seem to want to control in everybody?

"Above, you complained that the medical profession should not be involved in making decisions (or helping parents make decisions) about gender dysphoria"

Did I? Where at? Or is that just what you assume!

They are a business. Refute that!

Covid was overdiagnosed for reinbursment purposes.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
"Above, you complained that the medical profession should not be involved in making decisions (or helping parents make decisions) about gender dysphoria"

Did I? Where at? Or is that just what you assume!

They are a business. Refute that!

Covid was overdiagnosed for reinbursment purposes.
In other words if a medical condition makes you uneasy because of your superstitions and insecurities, then all the of the world's doctors must have conspired together to fabricate it for profit?

Name one medical facility, treatment facility or Dr clinic/office that isn't a business.
Your response to @Father Heathen's specific question, and also your statement about Covid above, clearly imply you think that the medical profession, unlike other businesses which you do not want to see regulated, are inventing conditions for profit, and that politicians should therefore regulate them. This is totally contradictory to your position on government regulation of other businesses.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
OMG Children are developmentally incapable of dealing with sex. Their psyches are simply incapable of dealing with sex. That's why sex with children is universally condemned and prohibited. Sexualizing children is criminal and disgusting.
Leave the kids alone!
How are kids being "sexualized"? Does treating someone's gender dysphoria turn them into an object of desire for you? Don't craft your kinks into straw men.

Besides, doesn't your religion practice Metzitzah b'peh? Seems like you're in no position to talk.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Some people really, really need to watch Jon Stewart's interview with parents of trans kids. It's eye-opening for those who don't understand.


"Stewart also featured an important discussion with parents of trans youth, and legal and medical experts.

Debi Jackson, who has a transgender child, told her story, explaining that when her daughter starting expressing her true gender, Jackson herself was conservative and unfamiliar with transgender people: “We had no idea what it meant,” but she and her family sought out advice from doctors, including endocrinologists, to get educated about healthcare for trans youth. All major medical associations support gender-affirming care.

Stewart directly asks Dr. Joshua Safer, an endocrinologist: “What are the downsides of not giving gender-affirming care? What would be the harm in waiting?”

Safer replies with the facts about depression and suicide exacerbated by transgender youth being not affirmed. Research from the Trevor Project found that that more than half of transgender and nonbinary youth considered suicide last year.

Jackson brought up what transition can look like - her daughter transitioned socially at the age of four: “It was just name, pronouns, hair, saying daughter instead of son.”

Keisha Michaels told audiences about the difference it made when she and her family began to support her transgender child: “She literally lit up, she woke up when we supported her. We said, ‘we recognize that this is who you are, and we’re gonna support you in our house, and we’re gonna support you in your life.’” Michaels continued: “Gender-affirming care starts at home."

 
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