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Anti-trans bill passes in Kentucky

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Keisha Michaels told audiences about the difference it made when she and her family began to support her transgender child: “She literally lit up, she woke up
That happens a lot. I say myself, but I can assure you it's many of us, it shocks me seeing old pictures of me and seeing how dead I look. There was no spark or life in my life, with my old pictures reflecting either a very deep anger from suffering other people (especially seen in my high school pictures) or a very deep pain from a deeply rooted agony and misery from struggling with being trans.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That happens a lot. I say myself, but I can assure you it's many of us, it shocks me seeing old pictures of me and seeing how dead I look. There was no spark or life in my life, with my old pictures reflecting either a very deep anger from suffering other people (especially seen in my high school pictures) or a very deep pain from a deeply rooted agony and misery from struggling with being trans.
That's exactly why I shared that, and I think that you sharing helps a lot too. As difficult as it probably is for you.
I don't think anyone should have to live like that, especially just because some ignorant politicians think they can gain brownie points by banning care that actually helps people live more fulfilling lives. It sickens me.
 

JDMS

Academic Workhorse
And we have your usual strawman. No one is advocating sexual reassignment surgery for children.
Yep. The "sex reassignment surgery for kids" strawman, and the "genitals are used for sex, thus anything related to genitals must be sexual" argument.

As if genitals aren't present on our bodies from birth, regardless of sexual engagement... lol. Are people forgetting that a penis is used to take a ****, and the urethral opening is within the labia?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
<yawn> cheap attempt to change the subject. "Sexual reassignment" surgery for children is wrong.
And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's exactly why I shared that, and I think that you sharing helps a lot too. As difficult as it probably is for you.
I don't think anyone should have to live like that, especially just because some ignorant politicians think they can gain brownie points by banning care that actually helps people live more fulfilling lives. It sickens me.
Yup. They have no idea how much needless suffering their wants will inflict, and they don't care. They have their destructive ignorance and call it common sense and carry on in their crusade against whatever the pulpit tells them to hate.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.
Yep. And puberty blockers were developed for and used by cis gender kids like me whose period started too soon (8.) Using puberty blockers to treat symptoms of gender dysphoria is no different than using it for body dysmophia or early onset puberty. But these conservatives education is so bad that all they hear about is this imagined conspiracy of childhood sex reassignment.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Circumcision is even more wrong because it serves no legitimate medical purpose and its victims have no voice. Your silly superstitious beliefs change nothing.
Irrelevant to the issue of trying to justify sexual surgery on children for "sexual reassignment".
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.
Sexual mutilation is destructive whether done chemically or surgically. Stop trying to justify sexual mutilation of children.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Trying to overlap phenotypic/gonadal sex and references to it with erogenic sex is just the sort of brain rot that would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Dr: "I've assigned your child the female sex at birth."
Confused conservative: "Why are you sexualizing my child?!"
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Doctors don't assign sex, biology does.:rolleyes:
Sex assignment is literally medical/legal documentation service doctors preform. Written as 'assigned (x) at birth by (y doctor) at (z) institution.'

And are sometimes wrong because genotype and gonadal sex often don't align, doctors don't look at genotype, and because gender and sex are not interchangeable terms.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
@Shadow Wolf ,

I recall you mentioned something about the transition process. I don't remember the wording you used. Guided and unrushed? I'm trying to find info on this. Specifically some sort of regulation that would slow down the process to ensure minors aren't rushing into it? I'm actually seeing the opposite, that the goal of gender affirming care is to remove any delay, remove any obstacle.

If you can direct me to some info on this, I would very much appreciate it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
@Shadow Wolf ,

I recall you mentioned something about the transition process. I don't remember the wording you used. Guided and unrushed? I'm trying to find info on this. Specifically some sort of regulation that would slow down the process to ensure minors aren't rushing into it? I'm actually seeing the opposite, that the goal of gender affirming care is to remove any delay, remove any obstacle.

If you can direct me to some info on this, I would very much appreciate it.
It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.
Thank you very kindly
 

We Never Know

No Slack
It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.

How does a boy at age 5, 7 or etc know what it feels like to be female or know how a female identifies?
How is that different than someone saying they feel or identify as a cat for example?
 
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JDMS

Academic Workhorse
How does a boy at age 5, 7 or etc know what it feels like to be female or know how a female identifies?
How is that different than someone saying they feel or identify as a cat for example?

I'd like to see you play Devil's advocate and try to see if you can come up with any ways that a human male might be able to understand what a human female feels and experiences. Particularly, ways that are not possible for a cat. I want to see if you can think of anything. I have a few pointers if you can't. But I'd like to understand your thought process.
 
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