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Anyone change their mind yet about May 21st 2011?

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I think humans are more likely to end up destroying ourselves rather then any doomsday scenarios.
 

JustWondering2

Just the facts Ma'am
5/21/2011 will be my oldest sons 40th BD. I'm sure we will celibrate as usual by cooking on the grill and drinking a few beers!
 
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Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
How were these dates determined?
Very carefully...

Seriously though, the entire bible is one book that appears to be a collection put together over the years by authors over many different eras. Physically and historically this is true.

The missing element in all of that is if it was divinely governed over that long period of time. One must address that hurdle before anything makes sense. Furthermore, unless God allows a person to understand the things within the bible, explanation and examination does little good.

So if I were to attempt an explanation, you have to know up front, I already know I am most likely wasting my time, as very few people will ever understand what I am saying. It would literally be like a person speaking to a deaf person with their back turned to them.

So if you want to try this, just let me know. However, we can save ourselves a lot of time, by you answering this questions. Are you willing to accept that God may have governed the entire crafting of the bible, or rather is that simply not possible, or more likely that it is just a collection of writings from different guys over different times?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
So if you want to try this, just let me know. However, we can save ourselves a lot of time, by you answering this questions. Are you willing to accept that God may have governed the entire crafting of the bible, or rather is that simply not possible, or more likely that it is just a collection of writings from different guys over different times?
What do you mean by “willing to accept”? Do you mean that we should be willing to accept this if and when sufficient evidence is presented? Or do you mean that we should be willing to accept this on faith in the absence of evidence?
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
fantôme profane;2000710 said:
What do you mean by “willing to accept”? Do you mean that we should be willing to accept this if and when sufficient evidence is presented? Or do you mean that we should be willing to accept this on faith in the absence of evidence?

My question exactly.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
I suppose for me I look at it like this. God, if God exists probably needs us for absolutely nothing. As such, if we are to experience God, there is little room in my mind for the idea that God will ever need to or try to prove himself to us to exist.

So, we have the bible, that speaks of God. We have nothing else (aside from other writings). The question was posed to me by Heinrich, and I answered it honestly. I don't think it is possible to understand any explanation I give unless a person is willing to accept there will never be proof.

However, maybe a small conciliation, if you are able to understand what I am saying it is perhaps the most euphoric of all experiences. This coming from a person who has experienced much. Understanding what I understand, it is incomparable to anything I know of.

While that on the surface is an extraordinarily arrogant statement, it is an honest one.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
I suppose for me I look at it like this. God, if God exists probably needs us for absolutely nothing. As such, if we are to experience God, there is little room in my mind for the idea that God will ever need to or try to prove himself to us to exist.

So, we have the bible, that speaks of God. We have nothing else (aside from other writings). The question was posed to me by Heinrich, and I answered it honestly. I don't think it is possible to understand any explanation I give unless a person is willing to accept there will never be proof.

However, maybe a small conciliation, if you are able to understand what I am saying it is perhaps the most euphoric of all experiences. This coming from a person who has experienced much. Understanding what I understand, it is incomparable to anything I know of.

While that on the surface is an extraordinarily arrogant statement, it is an honest one.

Okay. I am willing to listen if you want explain how those dates were determined.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Okay. I am willing to listen if you want explain how those dates were determined.
I represent what this linked website teaches, and happen to believe it. So it would be far easier for me to reference you there.
Literature Online - Family Radio Worldwide

On the left hand side you will notice many titles, while they are all interesting under the "Main" section a good place to start is "We are almost there"

Everything is free, as this guy sells nothing I am aware of. Good luck with it, and sorry to divert you, but my experience on the RF has not been great when it comes to presenting this info, and it sucks spending lots of time on something just to get mocked at. So if you have any specific questions, I will be glad to discuss, but I think you will find all you need in that link.

However, I will tell you briefly how the dates came about. May 21 2011 is a specific Jewish date, very important in the bible. The bible has a very accurate time line as well, which if one is willing can follow (you know all the begats?). All the information is there, it is just up to your heart to take the first step. If not, no big deal. Maybe another time.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Yeah and what It Will End fails to mention is that Harold Camping is an old fruitcake who's been predicting the end of the world for years, and already got it wrong in 1994.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Yeah and what It Will End fails to mention is that Harold Camping is an old fruitcake who's been predicting the end of the world for years, and already got it wrong in 1994.
Why would I call him a fruitcake? Your silly assertion about 1994 tells me how little you actually know. :shrug:
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
What?
The world really did end in 1994?
Really, have you actually read that book called 1994? It doesn't claim it is going to end. It talks about a lot of stuff pointing to it possibly being near the end, which is much different language than what he is using now.

Seriously though, I get it, it is fun to joke, I'm not stupid, however if you haven't read the material why comment? Why go by someone's word that hasn't read the material either?

I just don't get it.
 

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
The world has been ending for 2,000 years now.

It is merely a scare tactic the Evangelizes drag out whenever they see their numbers dwindling and/or church attendance falling.

Although I cannot recall the man's name, there is one such "prophet" who resides on a private compound in Texas (big surprise) who says the world will end almost every decade. What I cannot understand is why the man retains any followers.

Harold Camping is no different, and has indeed named dates earlier for the end of the world. The man claims "Creation" occurred 11,013 BCE and the WWF in 4990 BCE. This alone should tell everyone the man has no credibility.

BTW itwillend, in that book Camping did indeed name Sept 6 1994 as one of the possible dates of the end of the world.
 
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