Get used to it. Increasing global temperatures are going to unlock a lot of things frozen in ice or deep in the tundra soils.
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There have already been discoveries of new, uncharacterized microbes found in the Siberian tundra.
Since the caronavirus jumped from a reservoir host to humans, finding something in a frozen animal carcass is not inconceivable as a source. I am less concerned about scientists unleashing something new than I am about increased encounters between locals or wildlife due to a defrosting environment, spreading something.
We regularly encounter new disease organisms now. Sources opened by climate change may be speculation at this point, but I think it has a potential worth considering.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ADegUICRCaAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Azs_RldRqWWib9sphbJ34
This is what I was talking about.
This is what I was talking about.
ronki23
Well-Known Member
Mortality still 2%
Out of curiosity, how do live food markets cause this? Don't pet shops and zoos have the same problems?
Is it caused by lack of antibiotics/ vaccinations in the animals or by eating them raw?
Estimates vary, but in any case as early as it is in the epidemic ratios are hard to nail down and will probably change over time.
Coronavirus Mortality Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer
No idea, but considering that almost all, if not all, infectious diseases can trace their origins to human/animal interaction, eating anything raw sounds like a bad idea to me.
The latest: Coronavirus Death Toll and Trends - Worldometer
"1,489 people have died so far from the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak as of February 14, 2020, 00:45 GMT.
There are currently 65,247 confirmed cases in 28 countries. The fatality rate is still being assessed."
Coronavirus Update (Live): 65,247 Cases and 1,490 Deaths from the Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
"1,489 people have died so far from the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak as of February 14, 2020, 00:45 GMT.
There are currently 65,247 confirmed cases in 28 countries. The fatality rate is still being assessed."
Coronavirus Update (Live): 65,247 Cases and 1,490 Deaths from the Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
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Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
What? Global warming is just fake news, or so I'm told by our lord and savior Trump.
To be serious though, I think we're in for a heck of a ride when it comes to diseases, food, and much more. Only new inventions and ingenuity can save us now.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I don't know how old that article is, but he's saying only 500 people have died so far.
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Anyone worried? Me. Very.
The Diamond Princess is currently quarantined off the coast of Japan. My wife and I are booked on its mid-April Japan cruise.
The Diamond Princess is currently quarantined off the coast of Japan. My wife and I are booked on its mid-April Japan cruise.
McBell
Unbound
The time stamp says February 6, 2020
Don't know where the author us getting his information then.
As if last night we were here:
Coronavirus Update (Live): 64,474 Cases and 1,384 Deaths from the Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
McBell
Unbound
I do not know what the death count was on February 6, 2020.
It is possible that the article was written a few days before the published time stamp.
It could also be that the death count was only 500 (or close to it) on February 6, 2020.
That was a week ago, after all.
The posts in this thread jump from Jan 27, 2020 to February 8, 2020.
On feb 8 you posted a link that there were 811 deaths.
I found a website that claims 636 in China alone on feb 6, 2020
McBell
Unbound
I suspecrt that we will start encountering inconsistencies with the death count simply because people will start being selective on which deaths count and which do not.
A cpl of other problems with this article:
It mentions the fact that both SARS and MERS were responsible for more deaths so far (that is if for some reason we decide to accept his claim of 500 deaths for the Novel-c virus).
What he isn't taking into account is that the SARS epidemic lasted 9 months, and the 800 deaths attributed to that strain included all the casualties of the epidemic along with any fatalities since it appeared in 2002, 18 years ago.
MERS has been around since 2012, and the 858 deaths are a summary of the last 8 years.
So what we really have here:
MERS 858 deaths over the course of 8 years.
SARS 800 deaths over the course of 18 years.
Novel coronavirus 500 over the course of something like 6 weeks.
And that's if we accept the authors count, which again seems unfounded. Especially when compared to stats from more reliable sources, which put the count over 1300 so far.
The author also points out that the novel virus is no more contagious than the measles.
Thing is, we have a vaccine for the measles, and even so:
"In 2011, the WHO estimated that 158,000 deaths were caused by measles. This is down from 630,000 deaths in 1990.[78] As of 2018, measles remains a leading cause of vaccine-preventable deaths in the world.[15][79] In developed countries the mortality rate is lower, for example in England and Wales from 2007-2017 death occurred between two and three cases out of 10,000.[80] "
Measles - Wikipedia
The measles has between a .1 and .2 mortality rate, compared with novel's 2+%, 10 to 20 times as high.
All in all IMO the article looks like an OP-ed by someone who didn't bother checking his facts very closely, or thinking the whole thing through very well.
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The latest:
Coronavirus Cases:
67,100
Deaths:
1,526
Recovered:
8,193
Coronavirus Update (Live): 67,100 Cases and 1,526 Deaths from the Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
Coronavirus Cases:
67,100
Deaths:
1,526
Recovered:
8,193
Coronavirus Update (Live): 67,100 Cases and 1,526 Deaths from the Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer