Maninthemiddle
Active Member
Whose truth, depends on who is telling the story.
Palestinians did not exist until the region was given the name by Greeks.
Even then the region was Israel’s.
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Apparently - Two State Solution is not Palestinian Desire.
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Palestinians did not exist until the region was given the name by Greeks.
Even then the region was Israel’s.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Where oh where did you get notion from?According to a fundamentalist, radical interpretation of their religion, we Europeans too are illegal occupiers of Europe, because all the world belongs to them, including Europe.
We should commit a mass suicide, and so Europe will be theirs only.
From countless sermons made by sheiks or imams..
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's like saying the Celts didn't exist until the Greeks wrote about them.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Sources?
Al-Aqsa Mosque Address: We Will Soon Establish the Caliphate, Liberate Jerusalem and Conquer Rome
On January 17, 2020, a video was uploaded to the Internet of an event at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on the annivers...
But it's sufficient I also go to the Tablighi mosques in Rome...and I hear the same tune.
We don't talk about historical details, because both sides said it's mine.
The topic about two states solution.
After deal agreement peace, Israel gave West Bank and Gaza to Palestinians. To make their own state.
Yerda
Veteran Member
Have you seen the videos where interviewer asks Israelis how to stop the fighting and they all answer "erdicate the Palestinians"?Maybe that is why it won’t work?
Influencer went to the West Bank to see if Palestinians support Hamas – he almost didn’t make it out alive
Influencer Zach Sage Fox traveled to the West Bank to see if Palestinian people truly support the Hamas terror group, but he almost didn’t make it out alive.www.foxnews.com
The point is, you can get the answer you want by deciding who to ask. This wasn't a random representitive sample of the population. Also, let's not forget that diplomatic solutions aren't determined by responses to youtubers etc.
Maninthemiddle
Active Member
No it’s not, the Palestinians were not a people.
Tell me who they are, where and when they went to the land they are in now, and where they came from and what were they called
Zachary J. Foster argued in a 2015 Foreign Affairs article that "based on hundreds of manuscripts, Islamic court records, books, magazines, and newspapers from the Ottoman period (1516–1918), it seems that the first Arab to use the term "Palestinian" was Farid Georges Kassab, a Beirut-based Orthodox Christian." He explained further that Kassab’s 1909 book Palestine, Hellenism, and Clericalism noted in passing that "the Orthodox Palestinian Ottomans call themselves Arabs, and are in fact Arabs", despite describing the Arabic speakers of Palestine as Palestinians throughout the rest of the book."[4] The Palestinian Arab Christian Falastin newspaper had addressed its readers as Palestinians since its inception in 1911 during the Ottoman period.[5][6]
Foster later revised his view in a 2016 piece published in Palestine Square, arguing that already in 1898 Khalil Beidas used the term "Palestinian" to describe the region's Arab inhabitants in the preface to a book he translated from Russian to Arabic. [source]
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That doesn't match your claims. You found one extremist ****, not a larger trend.Al-Aqsa Mosque Address: We Will Soon Establish the Caliphate, Liberate Jerusalem and Conquer Rome
On January 17, 2020, a video was uploaded to the Internet of an event at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on the annivers...www.memri.org
But it's sufficient I also go to the Tablighi mosques in Rome...and I hear the same tune.
You didn't read my post evidently.
I said a radical interpretation. Interpretation doesn't mean mainstream religion.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They didn't just magically appear out of a vacuum.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You brought it up like theres a serious effort to kill everyone in Europe. At most you found Islam's worst, much like how MAGA are also itching amd threatening to use violence if they don't get their way.
It's hardly worth pointing out as you did.
Considering I am really furious at Obama's administration for the destruction of Libya ...and that I considered Gaddafi a great leader, I really don't understand why you keep making these assumptions.
Decency matters.
anotherneil
Well-Known Member
Many things matter; priorities matter; constitutional rights matter; relevancy matters; soundness matters. What's your agenda?
Keeping fascistoids, scoundrels, racists and generally corrupt people out of positions of power is a big part of it.
But that is supposed to go without saying... isn't it?
anotherneil
Well-Known Member
Ideally, yes. Which political party do you believe is far more associated with all of this?