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are all vaishnavites conservative
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Wannabe Yogi
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Just to mention it: Your profile says you are male.
I like to think I am in touch with my female side
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
Okay, now I am confused.
How so ?
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
It must be equal.
I like to think I am in touch with my female side
I've been told that all my life, but not as a compliment. :sad4:
:biglaugh:
Wannabe Yogi
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I think it is a good thing.
ratikala
Istha gosthi
dear freind ,
ah ha ... that is me , ...my nature .... coming in to contact with the vasnava marg , and my nature responding to the vaisnava marg , ... my nature responding to the vaisnava deitys out of an inate love , .. from somewhere within the core of my being .
there is another aspect to the nature of a person ,.. and that is , through our sincere practice(over life times) the clouded mind becomes clearer , thus slowly realising ones true nature , realising ones relationship with the lord . .... ones attatchment to self deminishes and the propencity to serve becomes greater , attatchment to the supreme becomes greater , the service is in a way the vaisnavas meditation .
and in ways un important , for to attatch to past lives would simply serve as another fetter , to accept their influence upon the nature of our being today is prehaps all we need consern our selves with .
now , the path of the meditator ? ....is prehaps one who has generated the same desire to detatch from the self , but simply uses a different path by which to acheive a ballendced level of non atatchment and awareness .
exactly what a vaisnava is doing , desolving the illusuory sence of self , and realizing the supreme .
ah ha ... that is me , ...my nature .... coming in to contact with the vasnava marg , and my nature responding to the vaisnava marg , ... my nature responding to the vaisnava deitys out of an inate love , .. from somewhere within the core of my being .
:yes: exactly , and it is that which shapes the nature of a person .
what I am calling a persons "nature" , is that which you refer to as the imprints of previous karmas , as our past actions shape our "nature" in this life , and very much dictate the path we seek out or find our selves willing to accept .
there is another aspect to the nature of a person ,.. and that is , through our sincere practice(over life times) the clouded mind becomes clearer , thus slowly realising ones true nature , realising ones relationship with the lord . .... ones attatchment to self deminishes and the propencity to serve becomes greater , attatchment to the supreme becomes greater , the service is in a way the vaisnavas meditation .
quite possibly so , as each of our natures is diferent , the permutations of the efects of karma are complex and beyond average conception .
and in ways un important , for to attatch to past lives would simply serve as another fetter , to accept their influence upon the nature of our being today is prehaps all we need consern our selves with .
now , the path of the meditator ? ....is prehaps one who has generated the same desire to detatch from the self , but simply uses a different path by which to acheive a ballendced level of non atatchment and awareness .
exactly what a vaisnava is doing , desolving the illusuory sence of self , and realizing the supreme .
my veiws ? ......like you , ...fellings that we are continuing our practice through countless lifetimes , and through those lifetimes we develop affections for particular practices , therefore what works for one may not be so suitable for another , yet we are doing two things either raising our conciousness or burying it , meaning we are either developing wisdom and insight or we are increasing our ignorance .
ratikala
Istha gosthi
dear prabhu ji ,
this kind of thing I find most sad , my grandmother who was of no strong religious following , but a simple wise and humble soul allways dissueded us from criticism ,
and the buddhist half of me says do not desturb others , if what they practice is of some benifit to them ...jai jai
this kind of thing I find most sad , my grandmother who was of no strong religious following , but a simple wise and humble soul allways dissueded us from criticism ,
and the buddhist half of me says do not desturb others , if what they practice is of some benifit to them ...jai jai
all true devotion is beautifull , I love to see anothers expression of devotion , even within vaisnavism there is so much variation in tradition from temple to temple , yet there is a concurrent thread of love which runs between .
jai jai to your son , what a fortunate birth :bow: and my husband is a bit of a girlie too , he cooks and I serve , its called colaboration , we are a very good team .
Vrindavana Das
Active Member
That is alright. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I think otherwise, and more than 90% of the religious world agrees. But then that is my opinion.
This world has all kinds of people. Good...bad...all. I think Swami Prabhupada has given a chance to all for achieving what this world is lacking and is desperate need of the hour - God consciousness. I think we should thank him for giving humanity that opportunity. What I make of that opportunity, that is a different issue.
Some have utilized the opportunity, some have misused, some have let go...why blame someone else for someone else's karmas.
I quote from the scriptures with original sanskrit verses. All the translations, with word-to-word meaning and explanations are scriptures only. Yes, if you think they are not scriptures, please prove your point with logic, use of scriptures, etc. I am open.
You may be right. The issue maybe very close to your heart, and I respect your sentiments. If you take up such issues with human rights organization, it can actually help. We should discuss God & religion in a religious forum. That is my opinion.
Though I am not an ISKCONite, I :bow: to you for your positive outlook. We should help wherever we can. But if we can't, we should carry on with our quest for God consciousness...hoping & praying for the ability to be able to help, by becoming Lord's instrument of compassion... someday!
Vrindavana Das
Active Member
Hand has four fingers and a thumb. All are not equal. Yet, each has it's individual function. All are unique and important.
A man cannot become a mother and a woman cannot become a father. Advocating equality of the two is simply childish. Both should recognize and respect the other for their unique and special place and contribution. Both are unique and both are important.
A man cannot become a mother and a woman cannot become a father. Advocating equality of the two is simply childish. Both should recognize and respect the other for their unique and special place and contribution. Both are unique and both are important.
What about equality in difference, dear Vrindavan Dasa?
Vrindavana Das
Active Member
Yes DivineKala, that is what I mean when I say both should recognize and respect the other for their uniqueness, special place and contribution. Both are individuals and both are important.