Are Atheists Happy?

[Zhakir]

For the first part of your post, since you are a religious believer, you can't really say how atheists feel about anything unless you were an atheist yourself. Even then, your testimony now would be questionable at best because of your current feelings about religion.

And let's not play semantical games regarding how we define agnosticism and atheism. I can think of a million things that I would prefer to discuss.

Not my feelings ,my beliefs :areyoucra

Play?! well..if you do not want to play,then go out.

 

[rojse]

Not my feelings ,my beliefs :areyoucra

I mentioned beliefs, too, and that doesn't really address my post, either. Should you be making calls about the general happiness of atheists if you have been religious all your life and you have not presented any statistics to back up your opinion that atheists are unhappy, such as the example of suicide rates?

 

[Zhakir]

Ok, and I'm sure christians and the jews have a thousand of them. So, how am I supposed to delineate between whats true and not?

PROVE IT
his is the point,this is why cant i find zen or what ever in the day of judgment
No they don't ,but may a part of the true injeel,d
they have this
Evil Bible Home Page

and scintific errors and contradictions in bible, you can not find abook like the quran

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It is the case .May be I will agree if yo respond to what in this page and prove Quran not to be God's
Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

There are a few explanations that work:

The first possibility: this sort of thing is an exercise in counting the hits and ignoring the misses. If a passage can be interpreted so that it kinda agrees with what we know from science, then this is counted as "proof" of the Qur'an. If some other passage doesn't work with modern science (the verse about the sun coming to rest in a muddy swamp, for example), it's disregarded as poetry or metaphor. My money's on this one, personally.

The second possibility: if we go with what you suggest and the conclusions that this web site drawn are actually correct about the Qur'an verses it mentions, it only gets you to a supernatural origin, not necessarily God. Couldn't the Devil have been capable of dictating a book to a 5th-Century person and inserting modern scientific facts into it? Maybe the Qur'an's just an attempt by some demon or evil God to turn people away from the real religion. Maybe Norse mythology is right and all "miracles" in other religions are just elaborate trickery by Loki. Can you disprove this possibility? If we believe Norse mythology, Loki's very powerful and very devious, so he'd be more than capable of pulling off something like this.

 

[Zhakir]

I mentioned beliefs, too, and that doesn't really address my post, either. Should you be making calls about the general happiness of atheists if you have been religious all your life and you have not presented any statistics to back up your opinion that atheists are unhappy, such as the example of suicide rates?

Are you here ,with us all my Atheist brothers here admit that they aren't 100% sure
if you don't find certainty then you should be worried.:slap:

 

[Tristesse]

PROVE IT
his is the point,this is why cant i find zen or what ever in the day of judgment
No they don't ,but may a part of the true injeel,d
they have this
Evil Bible Home Page

and scintific errors and contradictions in bible, you can not find abook like the quran

hahahaha! That last statement is the funniest thing ever! The christians say the same thing about any other book that claims divinity. And then they say the bible is the only book of truth, it's amazing to hear someone of different faith say that. oh the irony.

 

[Tristesse]

Are you here ,with us all my Atheist brothers here admit that they aren't 100% sure
if you don't find certainty then you should be worried.:slap:

Are you claiming to be 100% sure?

 

[Zhakir]

There are a few explanations that work:

The first possibility: this sort of thing is an exercise in counting the hits and ignoring the misses. If a passage can be interpreted so that it kinda agrees with what we know from science, then this is counted as "proof" of the Qur'an. If some other passage doesn't work with modern science (the verse about the sun coming to rest in a muddy swamp, for example), it's disregarded as poetry or metaphor. My money's on this one, personally.

The second possibility: if we go with what you suggest and the conclusions that this web site drawn are actually correct about the Qur'an verses it mentions, it only gets you to a supernatural origin, not necessarily God. Couldn't the Devil have been capable of dictating a book to a 5th-Century person and inserting modern scientific facts into it? Maybe the Qur'an's just an attempt by some demon or evil God to turn people away from the real religion. Maybe Norse mythology is right and all "miracles" in other religions are just elaborate trickery by Loki. Can you disprove this possibility? If we believe Norse mythology, Loki's very powerful and very devious, so he'd be more than capable of pulling off something like this.

These games,,, do i need to copy the site here?

 

[Zhakir]

Are you claiming to be 100% sure?

I am.....

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

These games,,, do i need to copy the site here?

Nope, no need. I'm sure that the evidence that Loki put into the Qur'an is very convincing. It would have to be if he wanted to attract as many followers as he can get to build the jotunn armies against the gods for Ragnarok.

 

[rojse]

Are you here ,with us all my Atheist brothers here admit that they aren't 100% sure
if you don't find certainty then you should be worried.:slap:

I'm not one hundred percent certain that God doesn't exist. I'm always open to the possibilty that God might actually exist. However, I'm also not one hundred percent certain that fairies do not exist, but I see no need to be a fairy agnostic.

 

[Tristesse]

I am.....

wow, so, the christians are wrong and anyone of any other faith is wrong? And how do you know this, because I would really like to know the answer. And I'm sure the rest of RF would like the answer to this. *pulls chair up*

 

[linwood]

I am 100% certain that no god ever defined by a human that I`ve heard of actually exists.

Does that count?

 

[Tristesse]

I am 100% certain that no god ever defined by a human that I`ve heard of actually exists.

Does that count?

I'll take that. Agreed

 

[rojse]

wow, so, the christians are wrong and anyone of any other faith is wrong? And how do you know this, because I would really like to know the answer. And I'm sure the rest of RF would like the answer to this. *pulls chair up*

*Puts chin in palms and leans forward intently*

 

[Zhakir]

wow, so, the christians are wrong and anyone of any other faith is wrong? And how do you know this, because I would really like to know the answer. And I'm sure the rest of RF would like the answer to this. *pulls chair up*

In this uncertain world this may seem strange, but really
compare
Quran Miracles - Miracles of the Qur'an

to what you know of bible scintific errors
and know that quran has no contradiction not like bible
Evil Bible Home Page

 

[Zhakir]

I am 100% certain that no god ever defined by a human that I`ve heard of actually exists.

Does that count?

NO ,because you can't proove it

 

[Tristesse]

NO ,because you can't proove it

I think, actually yeah you can, you can prove it to almost a certainty.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

NO ,because you can't proove it

Just as you can't prove that the Qur'an wasn't written by Loki to deceive mankind.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

and know that quran has no contradiction not like bible
Evil Bible Home Page

Really?

Skeptic's Annotated Quran - Contradictions