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Are babies atheist?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Which God was that they said they believe in. I asked some babies and I didn't understand their answers, I have a running theory they speak gibberish.
I haven't claimed babies to be believers
that would childish
as some retorts....................................
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
God forbid they are atheist, or is it heaven forbid?
God gave Man dominion

we adults have the eyes and ears of our children

I would my children ....to believe
if you wish otherwise for your children.....good luck
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
so the ignorant and the neutral.....
are on your side of the fence

you claim them for your side of the argument

though they are neutral ( a decision)
and they are ignorant

atta boy.....
I am merely pointing out that the neutral (agnostics in the modern sense of the word ... yes, a decision) and those ignorant of the concept of God/gods (babies would undeniably fall into this category, unless you can show evidence that babies understand and are familiar with the concept of God) are technically "atheists", according to the definition of the term, as they are "without theism". You can try to put words into my mouth all you want, but that is the extent of my argument.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
oh btw....

rejection is the opposite of acceptance

and babies are not atheists
I agree, rejection is the opposite of acceptance. But, that is not relevant to this conversation.

The prefix "a" DOES NOT refer to "opposite" or "rejection". The prefix "a" means "without". So, "atheism" is not the opposite of "theism". "Atheism" is the state of being "without theism". In other words, the term "atheism" refers to the absence of theism.

Since people (including babies) are unable to believe in something they are completely unfamiliar with, those who are not familiar with the concept of God or gods are "without belief in the existence of God or gods".

So, you are incorrect. Babies are technically atheists, as they are "without theism". But, they are atheist in name alone ... the "weakest" form of atheism.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I agree, rejection is the opposite of acceptance. But, that is not relevant to this conversation.

The prefix "a" DOES NOT refer to "opposite" or "rejection". The prefix "a" means "without". So, "atheism" is not the opposite of "theism". "Atheism" is the state of being "without theism". In other words, the term "atheism" refers to the absence of theism.

Since people (including babies) are unable to believe in something they are completely unfamiliar with, those who are not familiar with the concept of God or gods are "without belief in the existence of God or gods".

So, you are incorrect. Babies are technically atheists, as they are "without theism". But, they are atheist in name alone ... the "weakest" form of atheism.
and you are the referee for what is relevant?

yeah, right.......

babies are not atheists
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I am merely pointing out that the neutral (agnostics in the modern sense of the word ... yes, a decision) and those ignorant of the concept of God/gods (babies would undeniably fall into this category, unless you can show evidence that babies understand and are familiar with the concept of God) are technically "atheists", according to the definition of the term, as they are "without theism". You can try to put words into my mouth all you want, but that is the extent of my argument.
you are undoing yourself.....
babies are not atheists
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
and you are the referee for what is relevant?

yeah, right.......

babies are not atheists
I explained why it was not relevant. Atheism is not a rejection of theism, it is the state of being without theism. The prefix "a" means "without". Thus, your statement that rejection is the opposite of acceptance is not relevant to the conversation at hand. It's not my call, it's common sense.

Babies are "atheists" because they are "without theism".
 
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