Thief
Rogue Theologian
yeah......(You keep saying that)
and this thread was lost to the ignorant at the point of op
and still it remains....
babies are not atheists
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yeah......(You keep saying that)
babies are not atheists
last post is the winner....You can keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true.
Babies are atheists.
last post is the winner....
see you tomorrow
Which God was that they said they believe in. I asked some babies and I didn't understand their answers, I have a running theory they speak gibberish.babies are not atheists
I haven't claimed babies to be believersWhich God was that they said they believe in. I asked some babies and I didn't understand their answers, I have a running theory they speak gibberish.
God forbid they are atheist, or is it heaven forbid?I haven't claimed babies to be believers
God gave Man dominionGod forbid they are atheist, or is it heaven forbid?
Pascal's wager, impressive.God gave Man dominion
we adults have the eyes and ears of our children
I would my children ....to believe
if you wish otherwise for your children.....good luck
What Does the Bible Say About Children Going To Heaven?I would my children ....to believe
if you wish otherwise for your children.....good luck
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IOW it is OK that babies are heathen atheists.skipping directly to a quote.....
.....of such as these is made the kingdom of heaven
once they meet God.....in the kingdom.....IOW it is OK that babies are heathen atheists.
I nominate you to babysit.skipping directly to a quote.....
.....of such as these is made the kingdom of heaven
I am merely pointing out that the neutral (agnostics in the modern sense of the word ... yes, a decision) and those ignorant of the concept of God/gods (babies would undeniably fall into this category, unless you can show evidence that babies understand and are familiar with the concept of God) are technically "atheists", according to the definition of the term, as they are "without theism". You can try to put words into my mouth all you want, but that is the extent of my argument.so the ignorant and the neutral.....
are on your side of the fence
you claim them for your side of the argument
though they are neutral ( a decision)
and they are ignorant
atta boy.....
That's up to God, right? Why do you think God cares if babies are atheists or not?once they meet God.....in the kingdom.....
what then?
I agree, rejection is the opposite of acceptance. But, that is not relevant to this conversation.oh btw....
rejection is the opposite of acceptance
and babies are not atheists
and you are the referee for what is relevant?I agree, rejection is the opposite of acceptance. But, that is not relevant to this conversation.
The prefix "a" DOES NOT refer to "opposite" or "rejection". The prefix "a" means "without". So, "atheism" is not the opposite of "theism". "Atheism" is the state of being "without theism". In other words, the term "atheism" refers to the absence of theism.
Since people (including babies) are unable to believe in something they are completely unfamiliar with, those who are not familiar with the concept of God or gods are "without belief in the existence of God or gods".
So, you are incorrect. Babies are technically atheists, as they are "without theism". But, they are atheist in name alone ... the "weakest" form of atheism.
you are undoing yourself.....I am merely pointing out that the neutral (agnostics in the modern sense of the word ... yes, a decision) and those ignorant of the concept of God/gods (babies would undeniably fall into this category, unless you can show evidence that babies understand and are familiar with the concept of God) are technically "atheists", according to the definition of the term, as they are "without theism". You can try to put words into my mouth all you want, but that is the extent of my argument.
I explained why it was not relevant. Atheism is not a rejection of theism, it is the state of being without theism. The prefix "a" means "without". Thus, your statement that rejection is the opposite of acceptance is not relevant to the conversation at hand. It's not my call, it's common sense.and you are the referee for what is relevant?
yeah, right.......
babies are not atheists