Trailblazer
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Those are not Baha'is. They are just people who call themselves Baha'is. I can call myself a physician but does that make me a physician?
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Why?
Telling me your beliefs is no more meaningful than telling me your hallucinations. When you find the courage of your convictions and can advance and support your claims, give me a ring.God is omnipotent and omniscient and perfect, and God gave man free will to choose between good and evil, so any moral choices humans make are a matter of choice. I don't see any other way to interpret that.
That's right, and It all came out that way.
God saw everything that He had made, and behold, it was very good and He validated it completely. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.
Genesis 1:31 KJV
But God gave humans free will and free will is the fly in the ointment. After humans were created good, God was out of the game. God created humans with a purpose in mind and God revealed what that purpose is through His Messengers, but God allows humans to decide whether they will fulfill that purpose or not.
Apparently you do not understand what omnipotence means. It does not mean God exercises control over everything in creation, it only means that God is all-powerful so God could exercise control if He chose to do so, but God only does what He chooses to do, not everything He is capable of doing.
“Say: O people! Let not this life and its deceits deceive you, for the world and all that is therein is held firmly in the grasp of His Will. He bestoweth His favor on whom He willeth, and from whom He willeth He taketh it away. He doth whatsoever He chooseth.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 209
If God created a humanity and had to destroy it and try again that would be because humanity is not living according to what God created them for.
I do not believe that God is going to destroy us for exercising our free will as that is not a Baha'i belief.
Can that be achieved in one lifetime? Considering some people die very young. And others live in anger their whole lives, it seems that some sort of reincarnation process would work and be needed. Each soul experiences different things in their many lives and eventually learns what love is.
Read back thru the conversation.Why would God be unworthy?
Not my problem.How would God demonstrate that?
More hallucinations. Or beliefs. Either way, doesn't matter.God's goals are for you to care about your fellow humans. God needs nothing for Himself.
Not my problem.Why would an omnipotent/omniscient God have any needs?
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Those are not Baha'is. They are just people who call themselves Baha'is. I can call myself a physician but does that make me a physician?
Why would God be unworthy?
How would God demonstrate that?
God's goals are for you to care about your fellow humans. God needs nothing for Himself.
Why would an omnipotent/omniscient God have any needs?
Baha’u’llah’s Two Bold ClaimsThen what is the claim?
It would not have to be said over and over and over again to the same person, but it would have to be said over and over again such that the people of the world have all heard the message.And how do they hear it? The only way I can think of to make sure that new people can hear the message is to make sure the message is being said "over and over and over and over again."
You know, in the way you said we shouldn't.
Regarding our beliefs about the story of Adam and Eve that is the essential difference. I don't know what you mean by "the only difference."And that's the only difference, is it?
All the great religions have teachings about unity and oneness, but the Baha'i Faith is the first religion to teach the following:Yes, Bahai teaches is, but it is by no means the only religion to do so. All great religious traditions teach unity, oneness
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Those are not Baha'is. They are just people who call themselves Baha'is. I can call myself a physician but does that make me a physician?
I do not believe that God is going to destroy us for exercising our free will as that is not a Baha'i belief.Which is it?
That I am a Baha'i is verifiable through the NSA of the Baha'is of the United States.And you are just a person who calls themself Baha'i. You might be a physician and not be Baha'i..All we know about you is what we read on the internet.
Far be it for me to answer for Policy, but these are my answers to these questions...
He allows evil and violence to continue when he could stop it. He created a system in which natural long painful deaths of innocents are not only possible, but rather common.
He's God. I'm sure he could figure out a way.
So why did he create us?
Men of theisms said God is the planet. Hence why would you want the planet to disappear?I do not believe that God is going to destroy us for exercising our free will as that is not a Baha'i belief.
Why should God change the system He put into place, just because a few atheists don't like suffering?He allows evil and violence to continue when he could stop it. He created a system in which natural long painful deaths of innocents are not only possible, but rather common.
He already did.He's God. I'm sure he could figure out a way.
“The purpose of God in creating man hath been, and will ever be, to enable him to know his Creator and to attain His Presence. To this most excellent aim, this supreme objective, all the heavenly Books and the divinely-revealed and weighty Scriptures unequivocally bear witness.”So why did he create us?
Or so you believe.That I am a Baha'i is verifiable through the NSA of the Baha'is of the United States.
That I am not a physician is verifiable through the state medical board.
No, just the truth about the Baha'i Faith. It is a known fact that the sects are Covenant breakers, they are not Baha'is under the Covenant of Baha'u'llah. They will even concede to that.No True Scotsman fallacy.
No, in this case I know.Or so you believe.