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Are Even Half Of Cops Honest...Not Corrupt?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
By that definition I guess so, but only on a very similar proportion as people in general (which is, after all, what police officers are). Most people break the law and ignore other people breaking the law all the time. It just generally doesn't get shown in YouTube videos.
Civilians aren't highly trained to know the law,
nor are they charged with enforcing it.
Cops should meet a far higher standard. And
yet, they get qualified immunity, can use ignorance
of the law for qualified immunity, & can legally lie
to us. This is not reciprocal.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In some departments, everyone enables & uses
the same illegal tactic. In this case, it's the claim
that people who report on the internet, instead of
TV or newspapers aren't "real" journalists, &
therefore have no right to record cops. If they
do, then they get arrested for recording cops,
but it's called "obstruction", "trespass", or
"creating a disturbance".
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Innocent civilian, Antonio Smith is talking to a cop in a
civil cooperative manner. Another cop, Billy Wheeler,
approaches Smith from behind, doesn't announce that
he's a cop, & violently restrains Smith. He demands
that Smith put his hands behind his back, but Smith's
arms are restrained. So Wheeler slams Smith into
the ground, breaking his wrist.

It turns out that Wheeler mistook Smith for someone else.
None of the other cops take any action to stop Wheeler
from this brutal assault.
(Note: Much is made of Smith being black, but one of
the cops who allowed the assault is also black.)

Smith eventually settles for with Valdosta GA for $350,000
in damages. The taxpayers pay. Not the cops.
The police department investigated itself, & found
that Sgt Wheeler conducted himself properly & rewarded
him with promotion to Lieutenant.
As we see, this is departmental wide corruption, & nothing
changed after this brutal assault that cost $350,000.
$350,000 settlement offered in police takedown of wrong man
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Smith sued for $700,000, but settled for half.
It seems that real change won't arrive anytime
soon until juries begin delivering verdicts that
cost cities enuf to threaten bankruptcy.
If voters & politicians won't change things,
then civil courts & money can.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This article suggests corruption of an entire department.
In California city, officers bent badges to mark each fatal police killing, ex-captain says
Excerpted (underlining added)....
In Vallejo, California, a former police captain is alleging a secretive ritual that has triggered an independent investigation into the city's embattled police force: he says some officers involved in fatal shootings since 2000 bent the tips of their star-shaped badges to mark each time they killed someone in the line of duty.

Former Vallejo police Capt. John Whitney, a 19-year department veteran and former SWAT commander who was fired from his job last August, first described the alleged tradition in an interview published this week by Open Vallejo.

According to the unaffiliated news outlet, officers involved in fatal shootings marked those incidents with backyard barbecues and were initiated into a "secretive clique" that included curving one of the tips of their seven-point sterling silver badge. The outlet said it spoke with more than 20 current and former government officials and reviewed records and hundreds of photographs taken before and after fatal shootings. Two officers named in the report denied having bent badges, with one telling Open Vallejo it was a "lie."

Vallejo, a Bay Area community of 122,000 people, has been in the spotlight for its high number of fatal police shootings in recent years — 18 since 2010 — compared with other California cities. Last month, state Attorney General Xavier Becerra announced the Department of Justice will undertake an "expansive review" of the Vallejo Police Department after lawsuits claiming excessive force and residents' demands for an outside investigation into officers' actions.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This Vallejo cop attacks a man on his own porch
for videoing the cop's interaction in the man's
driveway. City pays the man $300,000 for this.
It's not the first settlement for this expensive &
violent cop.
Oddly, after arresting the man, the cop discovers
he's a veteran, & let's him go. Had he not been a
vet, there could'a been more damage, costing more
money.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A dozen or so dumb cops converge upon a house
with a Realtor showing a client. City pays out
$150,000 for the bone headed stunt of draing
guns on the pair, & handcuffing them.
What's interesting here is that only one cop
failed to delete her body cam recording. All the
others knew they ****** up, & deleted the evidence.
This indicates department-wide corruption.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sgt Rick Snook died of a heart attack. He was revered
as a good cop by department, family, & friends.
But good cop?
This view can only be held by people he didn't abuse or kill.
There's no mention of Snook killing an innocent homeowner
when he went to the wrong address on a call.
How many other cops are portrayed as wonderful & loving
family men who are dedicated to serving citizens, when
their unmentioned record is otherwise?

BTW, Snook died from Covid 19, as did another cop he
worked with. During this period, most cop deaths were
due to refusing vaccination, & then contracting the virus.
Heroes who died on the job? Nah. Fools who died of
their own irresponsibility.

Henry County Police Sergeant Rick Snook remembered | 11alive.com
Excerpted....
Sgt Snook gave his life in sacrifice, protecting the residents of his community. He most likely came into contact with the virus while on the job on December 5. He gave his life in service from the start of being a young man. Snook’s service career began straight out of high school. He is a US Army Veteran. After his time in the service, he wanted to continue his work in civil service. He began his career in law enforcement more than 22 years ago. Snook wore badge number 1639 for the Henry County Police Department.

Sgt. Patrick Snook and his family were members of the First Baptist Church. He was involved with two organizations locally, the Fraternal Order of Police and the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Snook was a family man who enjoyed spending time with his family. He also coached softball and loved sports. He enjoyed life with his wife and children.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A guy decides to follow a cop's cruiser, &
watch for traffic violations. He finds many,
eg, speeding, no turn signal, running stop
signs. This appears to be the norm.
Not enuf to say that it shows a "bad cop",
but it does show disregard for the law,
since no one holds them accountable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Entire department in NM is corrupt per whistle-blower
cop who alerts state Attorney General to corruption &
civil rights violations.
Of course, the department retaliates against him.
 

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What is generally not recognized is that the police are not there to protect the public. We are not doing better with having police departments. We could be better off with paid protectors working for us, than with those in government departments they aspire to qualify for and get in with doing so.
 

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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The case:
Every single one of many cops attacking an innocent man,
Johnny Wheatcraft, participates in this vicious assault.
Not one intervenes. The entire department supports
this assault.
Cops approach a car on a bogus blinker violation.
They demand ID from a passenger, who isn't legally
required to give it. Cops demand he exit the car, but
immediately escalate things with this cooperative man.
They sadistically wrestle him to the 108F pavement, taze
him 11 times, & pull his pants down to taze his crotch.
In front of his children.
The cops laugh about it.
They falsely charge him with assault with a deadly weapon.
They jail for 2 months before he gets a hearing, where the
charges were dropped.
The cops investigated themselves, & found nothing wrong.
But the video inspired the feds to prosecute the cops.
The suit was settled, but the results are confidential.
Arizona man shot with stun gun 11 times in traffic stop sues city and officers involved
Video footage clearly shows cops lying about every
aspect of this case.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the above case, I just might allow @sun rise to
have his way, ie, imposing the death penalty on
cops who commit such crimes. It would bring
about real & immediate change in cop culture,
thereby saving many from death & injury.
Nah....still no death penalty.
But the cop should spend life in a supermax
prison, & his union should pay for the settlement.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This case is interesting because the man
being detained knows the law, but the cops
are utterly clueless about how it applies to
detainment & 4th Amendment rights.
The video provides full legal analysis of
your rights & obligations as a civilian.

Also, we see a cop trick, ie, when no violation
of law can be found, accuse the civilian of being
drunk, which is useful because it's subjective,
providing plausible deniability.

All cops involved in this encounter are either
incompetent...or pretending to be unaware
of the law, & thereby corrupt.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
One reason I post videos is that a couple youtube
channels, Audit The Audit, Lackluster, & Audit Zone
provide thorough legal analysis, unlike "print" articles.

Parenthetical aside, a headline you'd never see...
"Black Cop Arrests White Man For Legal 1st Amendment Activity"
(The 2nd would be "Black Cop Arrests Black Man For Legal Activity".)

In the first case, all cops on the scene allow an illegal
arrest of an NBC journalist, pointing to corruption of
an entire department.
The arresting cop has a long record of complaints,
but remains on the force. In addition to policing,
Chicago is well known for corruption in general.

 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A group of cops assault a man by choking
him with snow in his mouth & nose.
No cop intervenes to stop the assault.
They conspire to file false reports.
No charges filed against cops.
No adverse action taken against cops.
Needless to say, there's a lawsuit.
Taxpayers will be punished eventually.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cop assaults & arrests man on subway, despite no
crime having been committed. After assaulting him,
they charge the victim with assault, based upon a
cop's injured hand. How was the hand injured?
By repeatedly punching the victim.
(Apparently the victim kept head butting the cop's fist.)
NYPD denies any wrongdoing....but taxpayers must
pay the victim $135,000 for the cops' assault & fabricated
charges. But that's just chump change....
NYPD Paid Nearly $1 Billion To Settle Lawsuits

 
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