Sure it is. But atheophobia is supposedly fear, and so was what you described.
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Are "New Atheists" Too Obsessed With Religion?
- Thread starter gsa
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Sure it is. But atheophobia is supposedly fear, and so was what you described.
Personally, I'd like to see some of the energy that is put into New Atheism put instead into a new kind of humanism. Humanism with an ecological bent that has both secular and religious branches. I think that would be more likely to improve our societies than atheism alone.
All I can say is that not all scientists are atheists and not all atheists are scientists. Science is for all of us, I am a strong theist yet I love science, especially astronomy and Chemistry and Anthropology (is anyone surprised about that last one...? 
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No, I'm not surprised. Then again, I have learned of you bits and pieces from some seven years now.
dust1n
Zindīq
In my experience, there are very few atheists who care about the subject enough to actually engage in that sort of conversation. However, religious people are incredibly obsessed about atheism. How many times have atheists come up with a catching little cultural phenomenon in religion. I'm not aware of atheists going around being like, "those are New Muslims, much louder than the Old Muslims." In fact, atheists didn't come up with the hundreds of thousands of possible denominations within the Christian religion; Christians did.
dust1n
Zindīq
...I am a strong theist yet I love science, especially astronomy and Chemistry and Anthropology (is anyone surprised about that last one...?
I was more surprised by the chemistry to be honest. Not many people love chemistry.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
What I described wasn't fear, it was hatred. It was anger. I don't think they're afraid that atheists are going to come and slaughter them in their beds. They are think that anyone who doesn't believe what they believe might convince people that they're wrong and they hate non-believers because of it.
It's fun, actually.
dust1n
Zindīq
Comes in handy too. It's nice to a know a bit about what your made of. But definitely arduous work.
That's been my experience too. Especially Evangelicals.
Evangelicals, in my experience, are pretty preoccupied with anyone who does not follow the religion; either not follow it at all, or follow it the way they do.
dust1n
Zindīq
To be fair regarding my statement. Not all religious people are like that. Most people in this world tend to get along one another on a basic level without antagonizing one another.
gsa
Well-Known Member
Certainly possible but I'm not terribly worried about the results. This polling is far from scientific!
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
To be honest, I find this just stunning. 'New Atheist' was a term invented for a magazine article, and yet the paranoia of apologists has manifested some terrifyingly sinister order or arch atheists bent on global domination out of nothing more than fear, hot air and a persecution complex.
There is no 'New Atheism', is does not exist as a philosophy, an approach, an ideology or an organisation. It was the title of a magazine article.
Do people think the 'New Avengers' actually exist as well, just because they were a TV show?
Or those nasty 'Militant' atheists - the ones who are not remotely militant, like that polite and educated old gent Dawkins. 'Militant' LOL.
There is no 'New Atheism', is does not exist as a philosophy, an approach, an ideology or an organisation. It was the title of a magazine article.
Do people think the 'New Avengers' actually exist as well, just because they were a TV show?
Or those nasty 'Militant' atheists - the ones who are not remotely militant, like that polite and educated old gent Dawkins. 'Militant' LOL.
On the face of it, his criticism of scientism strikes me as rather clumsy and confused. But perhaps that's because I'm rather unsympathetic to metaphysical speculations. Nevertheless, I recognize there are some pretty sharp limits to what science can accomplish.
Very true. But usually -- albeit not always -- when I hear what strikes me as an obsession with atheists and atheism coming from the Christian camp, it's Evangelicals who are doing the obsessing.
Evangelicals, in my experience, are pretty preoccupied with anyone who does not follow the religion; either not follow it at all, or follow it the way they do.
Good point. It would be hard to say whether they're more obsessed with atheists, or with Methodists.
dust1n
Zindīq
Goes to show the loudest and most irrational things tend to stick out.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
Most of these people consider "new atheists" those who not only don't believe, but don't have the good sense to keep their mouths shut and pretend that they do. With the advent of the Internet, lots of atheists have seen fit to openly arguing against religion. That's what the religious object to more than anything. Christianity is used to having a place at the head of the table where they had enough political and social power that they could stomp on anyone who didn't toe their religious line. They've lost that now. That's what they're really complaining about.
Methodists? Here in Brazil that goes mostly unnoticed. They do have a thing for Catholics, though, and arguably for Spiritists as well.