Are religion and philosophy mutually exclusive?

[YmirGF]

Hi again FFH,

In some respects, I will be blunt, some philosophers are rather full of themselves, amoungst other things, and it is hard to point at who might be right and who might be wrong. I am no exception to this rule. There are times when I am full of it. :bounce However, the good philosophers are like brilliant street lamps along our path, illuminating our way.

The good philosophers SHOULD be readily understandable, even if you have to think about what they are saying. Part of the game I play is to determine how many things I can say in the smallest amount of words. That is why, as you might have noticed, many of my posts are a single cryptic line. In most cases, I am meaning several things. Why?

Why? Just to be a dyckhead? No. Although I certainly can be that. To appear to be very wise? Not really? (I write like I talk, LOL.) This is how I am, pretty much in person. Is it because I have nothing else to say? Usually. You see, the reality is, that I perfer to let the reader do their own thinking. That is the key.

Like all good philosophers I don't like to describe things in excrusiating detail. The idea is to just get the reader thinking. The joy of this is that I have no clue where people will take something, and that is the neat part. I also, almost never, claim to be right. If, and when, I do, you can bet your booties on whatever that might be.

FFH, let "what if" become your mantra. Oddly, I am thinking of William Blake, the Victorian (?) visionary. Check out Blake's work, if you are not familiar with it. This man was a rare pearl. Heck check it out again, even if you know his stuff.

Well this armchair philosopher has to go walkies now..................

PS: I dont mean to be obtuse, but as a member of the "North of 140" crowd, AND a college dropout (I get bored easily), I can tell you that IQ means little beyond the fact that the individual has an aptitude for problem solving.

 

[pandamonk]

If I was so unintelligent, as you may all suppose, then how is it that I am not dependent on a mechanic or a computer expert to fix my car or computer. I do not go to mechanics and I do not go to computer technicians nor do I call a plumber or an electrician to fix minor and major problems, unless I am too tired to fix it myself. I have worked on every aspect of a car and can repair my own computer, as well as, every aspect of my home, from the sheet rocking to the shingles to the electrical wiring to the plumbing. I have remodeled 5 houses including the plumbing and light elecrical aspects of the home. I redid the lights and all the switches and plugs and replaced sinks and tubs as well as the plumbing that went along with it. I am very well accomplished in many aspects of knowledge of everyday life. The last time I had someone install something for me was over ten years ago. Sears had a sale on a water heater, installation included. The last time I went to a mechanic was 15 years ago. I was stranded and had no other choice. I had no way to go get the part or do it myself.

This post is only to prove my intelligence, has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I am highly intelligent and have scored highly on an internet IQ test. The fact that I have rejected philosophy has nothing to do with my intelligence. It was offensive to my spirit. I am specifically talking about the philosophy courses taught in universities across the United States. They are a waste of time. They teach things we already know to be true or false. They are only teaching truth mixed with lies.

Boasting are we? Ok I'm 17 and am in the process of building my own recording studio(myself). It will be well soundproofed(very difficult to do). Thats shows my intellegence . Also, i scored 135 in a IQ test(not online). I am going to build my computer for the studio, and have never been trained/not even done a class at school, in computing(so what you're saying ain't too impressive).

 

[Buttons*]

Boasting are we? Ok I'm 17 and am in the process of building my own recording studio(myself). It will be well soundproofed(very difficult to do). Thats shows my intellegence . Also, i scored 135 in a IQ test(not online). I am going to build my computer for the studio, and have never been trained/not even done a class at school, in computing(so what you're saying ain't too impressive).

wow, thats really something!

 

[pandamonk]

I am only boxed up here now because I was involved in a bad motorcycle accident and almost lost my foot. I had internal injuries in my chest area and could not turn over in bed without serious pain. This is why I started coming here. I could do nothing more than lay here in bed. I am still confined to laying here because my foot is still numb and swollen after five months and only gets worse if I walk on it. I do not spend every waking hour doing any one thing and I never have. It may seem that way because I am now unable to do anything but lay here for now. All the tissue throughout my foot were damaged and almost destroyed, blood vessels included. I have to simply wait for it to completely heal before I can walk on it.

Looking for pity now are we? Well 1-2 years ago i was confined to a bed for a certain amount of time, i was getting chemotherapy for a tumour in my leg, then surgery where my knee joint was taken out and replaced with a prosthetic knee. After this long operation i had more chemo. (just a wee reminder that there are people a lot worse off than you/just as, if not more intellegent than you). So lets get back to the debate

 

[SoyLeche]

141 on Tickle!! Yay!!!

 

[pandamonk]

wow, thats really something!

lol, dunno if you're being sarcastic or not. I think it's really "something", and I'm having lots of fun doing it. But i was just trying to show that twat, i mean FFH, that he ain't as great as he thinks, and that there are many, I'm sure many/most of the people in this forum, who are more intellegent/accomplished/have been through a lot more than he.

 

[YmirGF]

lol, dunno if you're being sarcastic or not. I think it's really "something", and I'm having lots of fun doing it. But i was just trying to show that twat, i mean FFH, that he ain't as great as he thinks, and that there are many, I'm sure many/most of the people in this forum, who are more intellegent/accomplished/have been through a lot more than he.

Now you, pandamonk, I am impressed with. Very impressed.

Keep on keepin' on, dude!

Good luck on the recording studio. I think that is great. Wow.

Open your mouth and say "Ahhhh"

*Tosses a frubal into the gaping void.*

 

[KirbyFan101]

Jesus obstained from all sexual activities in any form. He is our perfect example.

There is nothing "perfect" about refraining from sexual relations, in fact, its an absurd stereotype that someone who is celebant is more holy. Without sex, human beings would be non-existant in 100 years. Wake up to yourself.

It is better that we should deny ourselves of these things. It is clear that masturbation is a sin.

So God gives us an instinct, and then sends us to hell when we apply to to our lives? He/she/it sounds like a real logical fella.

 

[RagnarGalt]

Wow, I think calling masturbation an INSTINCT is pretty strong... Having sex is certainly a desire that was instilled in most humans as it would promote the 'become fruitful and fill the earth' command given in Genesis twice... And also, Kirbyfan, FFH didn't say that a lack of sexual activity is perfect... He made two statements... One, that Jesus refrained from all sexual activity and two, that he is our perfect example... The Bible indicates that while being married is appropriate, given the 'critical times hard to deal with' that would arise in the last days, it would be better for most to continue single... There is no need to procreate to fill the earth at a time when it is about to be under tremendous upheaval from the final war of God the Almighty... Also, Christians were given a commission to 'preach the good news in all the inhabited earth', and it is clear that we are better able to do that when we don't have the additional responsibilities at home... Further, in another thread, someone says that they believe Jesus COULD have been married, since the Bible doesn't explicitly say otherwise... However, God sent his son to the earth KNOWING that Jesus would suffer in many ways over the final years of his young life, and would ultimately die a painful, torturous death on a torture stake... Jesus, after gaining this knowledge at his baptism would also have known this... It follows that a loving God, and the loving Jesus Christ would not submit any woman to this experience... Also, Jesus had a 'world' of men to teach God's will to in a very limited time and so would certainly not have been able to sufficiently care for a wife... He spent days and nights travelling, preaching, praying... It is not realistic to expect that there a was a wife at home looking out the window waiting for him to return from his latest tour of missionary work... And finally, Jesus, not being married, would not have had sex, and masturbation would simply be a lack of self-control on the part of someone who was perfect in self-control...