Are There Any Differences Between Men and Women that Justify Inequality?

[Revoltingest]

I think women are better than men in education, modeling, nursing (both medical and childcare), as a psychiatrist, telling, social help, decor designing... those come to my mind now. Generally I think women are kinder and have better memory utilization than men. These two for example, give them superiority against men in some fields.

I could be wrong of course. If I am, please correct me.

Ma'am, please believe me. I don't think women are ultimately less than men. I love women!

You've never seen me model. I rule the runway!

 

[Nietzsche]

I would say so yes, it makes sense that women make better mothers.. and many consciously chose this over careers, perhaps that's what is undervalued.

Oh not this crap. How exactly is being a stay-at-home mom being undervalued? Because some women don't want to do that and instead want to be paid equally for labour?

 

[Smart_Guy]

You've never seen me model. I rule the runway!

Dude, and I don't wanna see it!

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Oh not this crap. How exactly is being a stay-at-home mom being undervalued? Because some women don't want to do that and instead want to be paid equally for labour?

in a way and to some extent yes, they themselves are undervaluing doing what they are naturally inclined to do, society undervalues it in many cases.

 

[Revoltingest]

Dude, and I don't wanna see it!

Sexist!
Creaky old curmudgeons can strut their stuff too.
Eat yer heart out, Zoolander!

 

[Nietzsche]

in a way and to some extent yes, they themselves are undervaluing doing what they are naturally inclined to do, society undervalues it in many cases.

Got any proof that women somehow make better parents than men? As the child of a single father, I'm interested in what you've got to say about this.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Sexist!
Creaky old curmudgeons can strut their stuff too.
Eat yer heart out, Zoolander!

Oh, I meant that it will take you ages to walk all the way on the runway with a shovel to lean on which is so boring. You're too old!

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Got any proof that women somehow make better parents than men? As the child of a single father, I'm interested in what you've got to say about this.

just my observation, & I don't think I'm too unusual. Like a lot of guys- I don't even like to see a photo of a baby before I've had my breakfast

I think after a certain age though, certainly fathers are better equipped to raise sons.

But wouldn't you think this was all 'naturally evolved' from your perspective?

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, I meant that it will take you ages to walk all the way on the runway with a shovel to lean on which is so boring. You're too old!

I'm quick with a shovel though.
Being old sux, but it beats the alternative.

Actually, I'm not at the stage that really sux yet. I'm just slowing down a bit every year. Guys I know in their 80s & 90s run into more difficulties.

 

[Nietzsche]

just my observation, & I don't think I'm too unusual. Like a lot of guys- I don't even like to see a photo of a baby before I've had my breakfast

I think after a certain age though, certainly fathers are better equipped to raise sons.

Slightly less-awkward is not inherently better.

But wouldn't you think this was all 'naturally evolved' from your perspective?

No. The only thing a woman can do with a child that a man can't is breast-feed, and that's really not very major, all things considered, because a baby can eat 'normal' food once its been softened. You see, like other Primates, we are not very sexually dimorphic. Our differences mostly have to do with plumbing and body proportions. Child-rearing is largely a learned skill, with women picking up on it faster due to the chemical-bonding made by pregnancy & child-birth. They aren't better at it so much as they learn it a little quicker. There's a chemical incentive to do so.

But other than that, it's still a skill, not a trait. It's something passed down as knowledge, not instinct.

 

[Akivah]

I saw an interesting statistic yesterday on millionaires. Around 80% of single male millionaires prefer to marry non-millionaire females. However around 80% of single female millionaires prefer to marry millionaire males.

Why would that be? Is this some sort of inequality?

 

[Midnight Rain]

I saw an interesting statistic yesterday on millionaires. Around 80% of single male millionaires prefer to marry non-millionaire females. However around 80% of single female millionaires prefer to marry millionaire males.

Why would that be? Is this some sort of inequality?

A guess would be that it may be in their minds to maintain some sort of superiority while a women may have it in her mind that she would only want a man that was at least her equal or else he may not be good enough for her.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Slightly less-awkward is not inherently better.


No. The only thing a woman can do with a child that a man can't is breast-feed, and that's really not very major, all things considered, because a baby can eat 'normal' food once its been softened. You see, like other Primates, we are not very sexually dimorphic. Our differences mostly have to do with plumbing and body proportions. Child-rearing is largely a learned skill, with women picking up on it faster due to the chemical-bonding made by pregnancy & child-birth. They aren't better at it so much as they learn it a little quicker. There's a chemical incentive to do so.

But other than that, it's still a skill, not a trait. It's something passed down as knowledge, not instinct.

A lot of those terms are fairly subjective and so I'd maybe agree- women are a little quicker, faster- which in itself could be pretty decisive, but don't you think there is a vast gulf between the maternal instincts of a mother and the paternal instincts of a father? i.e. perhaps a man can be taught technically to perform the tasks as well, but the desire is crucial is it not?

 

[Smart_Guy]

I saw an interesting statistic yesterday on millionaires. Around 80% of single male millionaires prefer to marry non-millionaire females. However around 80% of single female millionaires prefer to marry millionaire males.

Why would that be? Is this some sort of inequality?

Maybe because the females are looking for dependable males they can trust and depend on while the males don't want or mind the same from the females?

Dunno!

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Anyone can wield the word "science" in making a claim. But what evidence is there to say no men have paternal instincts before birth, & that all women do? I'm skeptical because I know of examples to the contrary. In the arena of science, an exception to the rule means the rule is wrong.
Ref...
Four Myths About Bonding With Your Baby | Seleni Institute

Dude....I agree with you.

I argue that men can be just as good at parenting as women. Science can back this up. Care to direct your ire at the folks in this thread who actually believe women naturally are better parents?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Slightly less-awkward is not inherently better.


No. The only thing a woman can do with a child that a man can't is breast-feed, and that's really not very major, all things considered, because a baby can eat 'normal' food once its been softened. You see, like other Primates, we are not very sexually dimorphic. Our differences mostly have to do with plumbing and body proportions. Child-rearing is largely a learned skill, with women picking up on it faster due to the chemical-bonding made by pregnancy & child-birth. They aren't better at it so much as they learn it a little quicker. There's a chemical incentive to do so.

But other than that, it's still a skill, not a trait. It's something passed down as knowledge, not instinct.

Exactly. Well said!

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Maybe because the females are looking for dependable males they can trust and depend on while the males don't want or mind the same from the females?

Dunno!

I'd agree- women clearly consider wealth more important than guys do in choosing a partner, I guess I can't blame them since we don't look as good!

 

[Revoltingest]

Dude....I agree with you.

I argue that men can be just as good at parenting as women. Science can back this up. Care to direct your ire at the folks in this thread who actually believe women naturally are better parents?

Your claim wasn't about which is better (not in dispute), but rather when parental instincts kick in. I challenge your assertions about the specific schedule. There's greater diversity of response as shown in the link I provided.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd agree- women clearly consider wealth more important than guys do in choosing a partner, I guess I can't blame them since we don't look as good!

Speak for yourself!
I'm a kept man these days.
(Although I'm not much of one.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe because the females are looking for dependable males they can trust and depend on while the males don't want or mind the same from the females?

Dunno!

Dependability & trustworthiness in a wife are qualities which husbands appreciate more as time goes on....especially after a divorce or two. We're all slow learners about what matters in a spouse.