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Are you a liar?

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Okay, it appears that you have not studied this topic at all. All of the Gospels are anonymous. None of them have a "written by" on them.. The names are early church tradition. Luke has a ten year pregnancy for Mary. He starts out with "in the days of Herod" roughly 4 BCE at the latest. and the next thing we know it is ten years later and Mary is giving birth.
I do love it when 'wise guys' come along and think they know better than God's chosen apostles and evangelists.

So you think that Luke, who travelled with Paul, and who knew the Christian community in Jerusalem, was not familiar with people who were eyewitnesses to the events he records? You think that he could have made an historical error of ten years despite the fact that he must have spoken with John, the same apostle who was instructed to care for Mary, the mother of Jesus. So you don't think John would have talked to Mary about the events of Jesus' birth? Do you think that maybe Mary suffered from dementia?

It's now 2022, and if we look back on the events of WW2 it may all seem a long time ago. But people alive today remember those events, and evidence is not hard to find. If an historian came along and wrote a book claiming that WW2 began in 1929 and ended in 1935, would you believe them? I hope not. Yet, you're trying to claim that Luke couldn't tell the difference between a census that took place during the reign of Herod, and a census that took place in 6CE after the Romans took over the administration of Judea from Archelaus!

What absolute nonsense!

To add a little salt to your wounded pride, let me also tell you that Luke, who also wrote the book of Acts, tells us about the census of 6CE in Acts 5:37! So, he could not have been mixing up the two events. One was held while Herod was king, the other under Roman administration. And, since the Romans did not require people to return to their ancestral homes for registration, the census under Herod was administered differently from the census under the Romans.

Please, do your homework before criticising the scriptures!
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
No, once again you are projecting. If someone can properly support their claims I can change my mind. You seem to have admitted that you can't, even though you should know that you are wrong in some of your beliefs.

That's correct. I have Absolute Certainty that everything in the Scriptures/Bible from Genesis to Revelation is True and, therefore, my mind cannot be changed. The Bible/Scriptures teaches Esoteric and Exoteric knowledge. The Exoteric is for the Earthly Christian Church.

What type of evidence are you looking for? Any External Evidence that is presented cannot and would not be validated, therefore in reality your mind also cannot be changed.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
You've set yourself up against God, and against truth, which is a far more serious matter than having a dispute with me!
See how you have a bad habit of this passive aggressive behavior? You assert your beliefs have influence on my thinking when I've made it clear they do not.

I don't assume your God exists. I don't assume your belief of religious truth is valid. You asserting that I do is an attempt for you to impose your beliefs onto me. This is likely your frustration that I have the freedom to reject the claims you make. Your religion has no authority beyond yourself.

If your God exists, prove it. If your religious beliefs are truth, prove it. If you can't, it's your problem. I reject it.

I've made it abundantly clear that l believe the Bible is the written word of God, and I believe Jesus Christ is the living Word of God.
So? What makes you infallible and perfect in your judgments about these concepts? Are you beyond error? Do you concede that you could be mistaken in your religious belief, or do you avoid that type of humility and honesty?

The belief that Jesus is the Christ has been around for nearly two thousand years, and the arguments in support of this claim are extensive and numerous.
Hindu beliefs are older, so they must be truer. Is that what you are suggesting, the older the belief the truer it is? You are wearing out all the typical logical fallacies.

If you listen to the testimonies of Christians, you'll soon discover that most come to faith because they are touched by the love of Jesus Christ. Very few come to faith based on intellectual arguments. The 'apologetics' of the head (intellect) tend to follow after the heart's conversion.
No, all Christians have heard about the religion from family, or others in their community, or national tradition. This is why if you were born in India you would likely be Hindu. If you were born in the Middle East you would likely be Muslim. If you were born in the Boston areas you would likely be Catholic. If you were born in Japan you would likely be Shinto. If you were born in the American South you would likely be Baptist. If you were born in Greece you would likely be Greek orthodox. It's a pattern all over the world, geography influences what religion you end up adopting. In the USA people will likely pick some form of Christianity.

The "love of Jesus Christ" means what? Social influence by other humans.

I understand you want your religious belief to be special and magical, there just aren't the facts you need to make a valid claim about it. There are better objective explanations for why humans believe in what they do. And let's be clear, we don't see Christians behave any more morally that non-Christians, so that is a huge liability. I would be impressed if Christians all over the world shared an amazing and consistent moral outlook, and wisdom, that mirrors what Jesus taught. We don't. We see many Christians show all the vices warned about in Christianity, and they justify it. This is m most evidence in Christian politicians, and we see examples cheating, lying, committing fraud, yet claim to be Christian. Not a very good representation of Jesus' love, is it? These examples give thinkers reason for doubt.

Nevertheless, if you want intellectual argument for justification, then the best place to begin is with the prophecies of the OT.
LOL, those have been subject to so much scrutiny over the centuries. There is no justification found in prophesies, at least not without loads of assumptions and generous interpretation. That's not acceptable.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Not applicable to me.

Have you ever studied how the Gospels were constructed? You are aware there was no Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John, yes? You are aware these stories have been added to and edited over the millennia, yes?
So, you've given up on what really matters, which is understanding the message of the scriptures, so you can focus attention on unfruitful debate about the 'construction' of the Gospels!

The questions you raise have been trawled over by thousands of scholars, yet, despite all the arguments, there has been no significant alteration to the scriptures. This should tell you something about true beauty of the Bible.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I am not a member of any particular visible church denomination, but l do accept the scriptures as the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit as the baptism of Jesus Christ. I am probably closest to the Pentecostalists in my theology.

What do you mean by 'practicing the Earthly Levitical Priesthood'?

To me, the priesthood of the NT are the saints of God, the 'born again' believers who, as co-heirs with Jesus Christ, mediate between man and God. This includes all the ministries described by Paul - apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers.

1) I'm not a member of any Denominational or Non-denominational Visible Church either, being an outcast from Mainstream Christianity.

2) Does being closest to Pentecostalists mean, to you, having emphasis on being filled with the Holy Spirit and Speaking in Tongues etc.?

3) The meaning of "Practicing Earthly Levitical Priesthood" is to observe the Duties and Sacrifices of Aaron.

4) I'm saying that you cannot be Born Again/Born From Above without practicing the Earthly Levitical Priesthood.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
You accept that it is an 'if', a big 'if', if I may say so.
But as John completely believed that and in Jesus being the redeemer, then at least from his side, it is not a lie.
To me God's existence is not a big 'if'. But l acknowledge that it is a matter of faith.

The argument about 'first' causes takes us back to 'the beginning', and to my understanding there are only two options before things began. Either there was nothing, which l do not understand as a concept, or there was one eternal 'Spirit', which l call 'God'.

It makes better sense to claim that the universe was created by God, than to claim the universe appeared from nothing.

In truth, Humanists have no idea how the universe came to be, and prefer to avoid the question.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Paul only declares himself an apostle because Jesus Christ called him to be an apostle.

Paul was blinded on the road to Damascus. He did not regain his sight until a believer, Ananias, was told to go to minister to Paul. Who do you think told Ananias to visit Paul? [Acts 9:10]

Maybe you don't accept the testimony of Luke. In that case, you must reject both the book of Acts and the Gospel of Luke. And, if you reject Luke, you reject information about the genealogy of Jesus that demonstrates his legitimacy as Messiah.

Really, your interpretation of scripture, and rejection of large portions of the canon, amounts to little more than a deception and heresy!

The "genealogy of Luke" does not match the genealogy of Matthew, and neither is required for the legitimacy of Yeshua. Yeshua fills the place of the coming prophet whom Israel was to listen too, as spoken by Moses. As for Luke, no one know who he actually is, and according to Luke 1:1-3, he witnessed nothing personally, which makes his testimony non confirmable. (Dt 17:6 & Mt 18:16). No one knows who wrote Acts either, but it is often assumed to be Luke, and therefore would be just more hear say, which is not legitimate testimony. As for Ananias being a "believer" who would heal Paul, per Acts, supposedly relayed through Paul, just more self witnessing, which would make it "untrue".. Keep in mind, that the Holy Spirit killed one lying Annanias, and another, the high priest, supposedly passed a death sentence on Yeshua. It was the Lord God who chose the two shepherds, Peter and Paul, to "pasture" the "flock (Gentile church) doomed to slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7), it was for the purpose of a shepherd, of which the "fat" "shepherds" of Ezekiel 34:16 will be "destroyed", and replaced with one shepherd when the Lord God judges between the sheep. (Ez 34:16-24). The "deception" comes from the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (Revelation 13), in which the two lamb like leaders, Peter and Paul, help Constantine and his Roman church, deceive "those who dwell on the earth". Someone is deceived, and I am thinking it is not me.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
It is "those who dwell on the earth" who are "deceived" by the "beast with two horns like a lamb", who is Constantine, the establisher of your "Catholic", universal Christian church which produced your canon. (Revelation 13). It is the "many" who follow the "false prophets" to "destruction" (Matthew 7:13-15). It is the "tare seed", the message of the devil, mixed with the message of the son of man, which produces the tares, "those who commit lawlessness", and "wickedness" who will be thrown into the furnace of fire. (Matthew 13). Quoting the false prophet Paul, will get you no brownie points. That would be the message of the devil mixed with the message of the son of man (Matthew 13). This is the "end of the age", when the angels will come and pluck out those who commit lawlessness, and who are stumbling blocks. (Matthew 13:30-42).

2 Timothy 3:12

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


Happy to say that I'm persecuted by Satanic Knights Templar/Freemason Vatican Soldiers. The Roman Catholic Church does not view me as a member of their Universal Christian Church.

Correct that there is Lawlessness throughout Christendom.

Paul is a Servant of Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ and Inspired teacher of Elohim/God. Are you prepared to accept the possibility that you don't understand Paul?

If you haven't noticed, I'm imploring for the requirement observing the Law of Moses and the Levitical Priesthood.

@2ndpillar, I doubt whether you are being persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church because you are in error with your beliefs about Paul and the Canon.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The argument about 'first' causes takes us back to 'the beginning', and to my understanding there are only two options before things began. Either there was nothing, which l do not understand as a concept, ..
Ah, you are not aware of the possibilities that quantum mechanics presents - Zero Energy Universe, Multi-universe hypothesis, etc.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
1) I'm not a member of any Denominational or Non-denominational Visible Church either, being an outcast from Mainstream Christianity.

2) Does being closest to Pentecostalists mean, to you, having emphasis on being filled with the Holy Spirit and Speaking in Tongues etc.?

3) The meaning of "Practicing Earthly Levitical Priesthood" is to observe the Duties and Sacrifices of Aaron.

4) I'm saying that you cannot be Born Again/Born From Above without practicing the Earthly Levitical Priesthood.
I think it's important to have fellowship with other believers, and l do this whenever possible.

Yes, l accept all the spiritual gifts as mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12, alongside the 'fruits' of the Spirit. I believe the gifts are for the Church as a body, and don't think that each individual believer should manifest all nine gifts. The purpose is to support the ministry 'with power'. I do speak in tongues but believe my calling is to teach and heal.

I am aware that there have been abuses of power and of the gifts, and Paul spoke about such abuses in his letters to the Corinthians. The final word seems to be, 'Let things be done decently and in order'.

I have found the writings of such Pentecostalists as Smith Wigglesworth, Maria Woodworth-Etter and Oral Roberts to be very helpful. They tend to emphasise the need for faith in all that we undertake.

When you talk about the Earthly Levitical duties and sacrifices do you mean 'in Spirit' or 'in the flesh'?
 
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Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Ah, you are not aware of the possibilities that quantum mechanics presents - Zero Energy Universe, Multi-universe hypothesis, etc.
I have heard of the multi-universe hypothesis but it doesn't change the basic premise of a beginning. You can have a beginning to one universe, and to many.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
The "genealogy of Luke" does not match the genealogy of Matthew, and neither is required for the legitimacy of Yeshua. Yeshua fills the place of the coming prophet whom Israel was to listen too, as spoken by Moses. As for Luke, no one know who he actually is, and according to Luke 1:1-3, he witnessed nothing personally, which makes his testimony non confirmable. (Dt 17:6 & Mt 18:16). No one knows who wrote Acts either, but it is often assumed to be Luke, and therefore would be just more hear say, which is not legitimate testimony. As for Ananias being a "believer" who would heal Paul, per Acts, supposedly relayed through Paul, just more self witnessing, which would make it "untrue".. Keep in mind, that the Holy Spirit killed one lying Annanias, and another, the high priest, supposedly passed a death sentence on Yeshua. It was the Lord God who chose the two shepherds, Peter and Paul, to "pasture" the "flock (Gentile church) doomed to slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7), it was for the purpose of a shepherd, of which the "fat" "shepherds" of Ezekiel 34:16 will be "destroyed", and replaced with one shepherd when the Lord God judges between the sheep. (Ez 34:16-24). The "deception" comes from the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (Revelation 13), in which the two lamb like leaders, Peter and Paul, help Constantine and his Roman church, deceive "those who dwell on the earth". Someone is deceived, and I am thinking it is not me.
The two genealogies, Matthew's and Luke's, work in harmony to provide an accurate explanation of how it is possible for Jesus to be both a descendant of David, and the Son of God. I can't imagine any Jew would accept a Messiah whose genealogy to David was not beyond doubt

Here's a neat summary:
The Genealogies of Jesus
R.A.Torrey
1. The genealogy given in Matthew is the genealogy of Joseph, the reputed father of Jesus, his father in the eyes of the law. The genealogy given in Luke is the genealogy of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and is the human genealogy of Jesus Christ in actual fact. The Gospel of Matthew was written for Jews. All through it Joseph is prominent, Mary is scarcely mentioned. In Luke, on the other hand, Mary is the chief personage in the whole account of the Saviour’s conception and birth. Joseph is brought in only incidentally and because he was Mary’s husband. In all of this, of course, there is a deep significance.
2. In Matthew, Jesus appears as the Messiah. In Luke He appears as ‘the Son of Man’, our Brother and Redeemer, who belongs to the whole race and claims kindred with all kinds and conditions of men. So in Matthew, the genealogy descends from Abraham to Joseph and Jesus, because all the predictions and promises touching the Messiah are fulfilled in Him. But in Luke the genealogy ascends from Jesus to Adam, because the genealogy is being traced back to the head of the whole race, and shows the relation of the Second Adam to the First.
3. Joseph’s line is the strictly royal line from David to Joseph. In Luke, though the line of descent is from David, it is not the royal line. In this Jesus is descended from David through Nathan, David’s son indeed, but not in the royal line, and the list follows a line quite distinct from the royal line.
4. The Messiah, according to prediction, was to be the actual son of David according to the flesh (2 Samuel:12-19; Psalm 89:3, 4,3 4-37; 132:11; Acts 2:30; 13:22,23; Romans 1:3; 2 Timothy 2:8). These prophecies are fulfilled by Jesus being the Son of Mary, who was a lineal descendant of David, though not in the royal line. Joseph, who was of the royal line, was not his father according to the flesh, but was his father in the eyes of the law.
5. Mary was the descendant of David through her father, Heli. It is true that Luke 2:30 says that Joseph was the son of Heli. The simple explanation of this is that , Mary being a woman, her name according to Jewish usage could not come into the genealogy, males alone forming the line, so Joseph’s name is introduced in the place of Mary’s, he being Mary’s husband; Heli was his father-in-law and so Joseph is called the son of Heli, and the line thus completed. While Joseph was son-in-law of Heli, according to the flesh he was in actual fact the son of Jacob (Matt.1:16).
6. Two genealogies are absolutely necessary to trace the lineage of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the one the royal and legal, the other the natural and literal, and these two genealogies we find, the legal and royal in Matthew’s Gospel, the Gospel of law and kingship; the natural and literal in Luke’s, the Gospel of humanity.
7. We are told in Jeremiah 22:30 any descendant of Jeconiah could not come to the throne of David, and Joseph was of this line, and while Joseph’s genealogy furnished the royal line for Jesus, his son before the law, nevertheless Jeremiah’s prediction is fulfilled to the very letter, for Jesus, strictly speaking, was not Joseph’s descendant and therefore was not of the seed of Jeconiah. If Jesus had been the son of Joseph in reality, He could not have come to the throne, but He is Mary’s son through Nathan, and can come to the throne legally by her marrying Joseph and so clearing His way legally to it.’
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I do love it when 'wise guys' come along and think they know better than God's chosen apostles and evangelists.

So you think that Luke, who travelled with Paul, and who knew the Christian community in Jerusalem, was not familiar with people who were eyewitnesses to the events he records? You think that he could have made an historical error of ten years despite the fact that he must have spoken with John, the same apostle who was instructed to care for Mary, the mother of Jesus. So you don't think John would have talked to Mary about the events of Jesus' birth? Do you think that maybe Mary suffered from dementia?

It's now 2022, and if we look back on the events of WW2 it may all seem a long time ago. But people alive today remember those events, and evidence is not hard to find. If an historian came along and wrote a book claiming that WW2 began in 1929 and ended in 1935, would you believe them? I hope not. Yet, you're trying to claim that Luke couldn't tell the difference between a census that took place during the reign of Herod, and a census that took place in 6CE after the Romans took over the administration of Judea from Archelaus!

What absolute nonsense!

To add a little salt to your wounded pride, let me also tell you that Luke, who also wrote the book of Acts, tells us about the census of 6CE in Acts 5:37! So, he could not have been mixing up the two events. One was held while Herod was king, the other under Roman administration. And, since the Romans did not require people to return to their ancestral homes for registration, the census under Herod was administered differently from the census under the Romans.

Please, do your homework before criticising the scriptures!
Once again, not Luke. The Gospel of Luke was not even named until the end of tbe second century.

Second the author screwed the pooch. You should read the Bible some day. The census in his Nativity myth was the Census of Quirinius. That was held in 6 CE. Herod died in 4 BCE. That is a ten year time period. You have made a false idol of the Bible. You do know that the Bible tells you not to do that I hope.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I have heard of the multi-universe hypothesis but it doesn't change the basic premise of a beginning. You can have a beginning to one universe, and to many.
Many-World Interpretation is now considered a mainstream interpretation along with the other decoherence interpretations, collapse theories (including the Copenhagen interpretation), and hidden variable theories such as Bohmian mechanics.
According to Martin Gardner, the "other" worlds of MWI have two different interpretations: real or unreal.
Hawking contrasted his attitude towards the "reality" of physical theories with that of his colleague Roger Penrose, saying, "He's a Platonist and I'm a positivist. He's worried that Schrödinger's cat is in a quantum state, where it is half alive and half dead. He feels that can't correspond to reality. But that doesn't bother me. I don't demand that a theory correspond to reality because I don't know what it is. Reality is not a quality you can test with litmus paper. All I'm concerned with is that the theory should predict the results of measurements. Quantum theory does this very successfully.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Once again, not Luke. The Gospel of Luke was not even named until the end of tbe second century.

Second the author screwed the pooch. You should read the Bible some day. The census in his Nativity myth was the Census of Quirinius. That was held in 6 CE. Herod died in 4 BCE. That is a ten year time period. You have made a false idol of the Bible. You do know that the Bible tells you not to do that I hope.
If your whole hypothesis is based on Quirinius then you need to spend more time looking into his background.

Here's what the historian and theologian James Ussher says in 'The Annals of the World'.

'Augustus ordered that all the Roman world should be taxed. This taxing first happened when Cyrenius was governor of Syria [Luke 2:1]. From this, a little book was made by Augustus, containing all the public riches, as well as the number of Roman citizens and armed allies. It listed the navies, kingdoms and provinces, and it recorded what tribute and customs were required to be paid.' [Tacitus Annals; Seutonius, Augustus.]

'Publius Sulpicius Quirinius was called Cyrenius in the Greek, and had a consul at Rome for seven years prior to this.'

A long and detailed account follows in which it is made clear that Quirinius was joint governor of Syria with Sentius Saturninus at the time of Jesus' birth.

Ussher states, 'Luke would rather mention him than the governor Saturninus, because he would compare this taxing with another that was made ten years later by the same Quirinius, after Archelaus was sent into banishment. He stated that, of the two taxings, this was the first taxing and this was the time of the birth of Christ.'

So, did Luke mention anything about two taxings? It appears he did, but people seem to have overlooked the evidence.

Luke 2:2. '(And this taxing was the first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria)'

This is supported by the evidence from Acts 5:37, showing that Luke knew about the 6CE taxing as well!

You have helped demonstrate that Luke was well informed and accurate.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If your whole hypothesis is based on Quirinius then you need to spend more time looking into his background.

Here's what the historian and theologian James Ussher says in 'The Annals of the World'.

'Augustus ordered that all the Roman world should be taxed. This taxing first happened when Cyrenius was governor of Syria [Luke 2:1]. From this, a little book was made by Augustus, containing all the public riches, as well as the number of Roman citizens and armed allies. It listed the navies, kingdoms and provinces, and it recorded what tribute and customs were required to be paid.' [Tacitus Annals; Seutonius, Augustus.]

'Publius Sulpicius Quirinius was called Cyrenius in the Greek, and had a consul at Rome for seven years prior to this.'

A long and detailed account follows in which it is made clear that Quirinius was joint governor of Syria with Sentius Saturninus at the time of Jesus' birth.

Ussher states, 'Luke would rather mention him than the governor Saturninus, because he would compare this taxing with another that was made ten years later by the same Quirinius, after Archelaus was sent into banishment. He stated that, of the two taxings, this was the first taxing and this was the time of the birth of Christ.'

So, did Luke mention anything about two taxings? It appears he did, but people seem to have overlooked the evidence.

Luke 2:2. '(And this taxing was the first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria)'

This is supported by the evidence from Acts 5:37, showing that Luke knew about the 6CE taxing as well!

You have helped demonstrate that Luke was well informed and accurate.
James Ussher was not a historian. He was a theologian which means that he studied church history at best.

Actual Roman historians refute this claim. It fails on several levels. First off Rome was in no position to order a census of Judea when Herod was king. At that time Judea was a client state. They paid tribute to Rome, not taxes. Rome did not care how many people there were in Judea. After Herod died his son that took over Judea failed. Rome was forced to step in and take control. At that point they had to do a census since they had to tax the residents directly.

You are listening to people that have no expertise in their claims at all.

Wikipedia is often a good starting point, Referring to Ussher in such a case makes your claim a joke:

Census of Quirinius - Wikipedia
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Many-World Interpretation is now considered a mainstream interpretation along with the other decoherence interpretations, collapse theories (including the Copenhagen interpretation), and hidden variable theories such as Bohmian mechanics.
According to Martin Gardner, the "other" worlds of MWI have two different interpretations: real or unreal.
Hawking contrasted his attitude towards the "reality" of physical theories with that of his colleague Roger Penrose, saying, "He's a Platonist and I'm a positivist. He's worried that Schrödinger's cat is in a quantum state, where it is half alive and half dead. He feels that can't correspond to reality. But that doesn't bother me. I don't demand that a theory correspond to reality because I don't know what it is. Reality is not a quality you can test with litmus paper. All I'm concerned with is that the theory should predict the results of measurements. Quantum theory does this very successfully.
Maybe you could talk to F1fan about the 'elasticity' of scientific findings!
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
James Ussher was not a historian. He was a theologian which means that he studied church history at best.

Actual Roman historians refute this claim. It fails on several levels. First off Rome was in no position to order a census of Judea when Herod was king. At that time Judea was a client state. They paid tribute to Rome, not taxes. Rome did not care how many people there were in Judea. After Herod died his son that took over Judea failed. Rome was forced to step in and take control. At that point they had to do a census since they had to tax the residents directly.

You are listening to people that have no expertise in their claims at all.

Wikipedia is often a good starting point, Referring to Ussher in such a case makes your claim a joke:

Census of Quirinius - Wikipedia
That's an unfair criticism of James Ussher. He was an historian, as well as being a theologian. Maybe you should check out the 'Annals' a bit more thoroughily. He quotes his sources, and uses over 14000 quotes from various historians to support his case.

And why have you not mentioned Acts 5:37, which demonstrates that the second taxing ordered by Quirinius was known to Luke?
 
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