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Are you capable of Loving Unconditionally????

Orias

Left Hand Path
It doesn't really matter what direction. What is important is that the knowledge is out there. WE all choose our direction toward discovery. Granted, those pointing might be pointing at nothing but it's up to each of us what we choose to learn. This world would never work right if people weren't allowed to share that which is special about themselves. Everybody wants to rule the world is mankind's greatest problem. Freedom makes everything advance much faster. That's why God grants everyone their freedom to choose.


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Then all I can contribute farther is that momentary gratification far outweighs these directions you speak of.

But I completely agree and understand to an extent, but sharing the Self and other accords is only tolerable by a few select group of people, and not everyone adheres to this image of "freedom" that so fondly dictates the actions and choices One makes.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I agree with you. There is no overpopulation, there is more greed than we can afford. So we have to be less greedy and share more, that does not do us any harm. And the greedy? They are never satisfied anyway.

I think the concern for resources is rather a materialistic viewpoint. In this view the human being is a body wanting to sustain itself through competition for resources. It is exactly this thinking that inspires people to grab as many resources as they possibly can. If it is all about struggle for survival by attaining resources than that is the rational thing to do. That is why systems build on this thinking can not solve the problems
Greed is indeed a major problem. In time, let's hope mankind will out grow this.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
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Then all I can contribute farther is that momentary gratification far outweighs these directions you speak of.

But I completely agree and understand to an extent, but sharing the Self and other accords is only tolerable by a few select group of people, and not everyone adheres to this image of "freedom" that so fondly dictates the actions and choices One makes.
Yes but the interaction brings learning. In time, mankind will get there. Yes, I know. There is a long way to get there but we must not stop walking toward that direction.
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
At one time, I would have said "NO," that I was not capable of unconditional love, because I've had some family members who I hate already even though they haven't killed anyone I love. But there's a difference between hating your family members because they are always being ***** and hating someone who used to be the thing you loved most in the entire world. I haven't got any children, but my closest thing is Baggins, my dog, who I love more than anyone else in the world. I don't think anything he could possibly do would make me hate him now, since I've loved him so much already. If he killed my mom (somehow) I would be really mad at him of course, but he'd still be my Baggins, and I'll always see him as my little baby who I've got to take care of no matter what, and I imagine children would be about the same for most people.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Yes but the interaction brings learning. In time, mankind will get there. Yes, I know. There is a long way to get there but we must not stop walking toward that direction.


Ah yes, in time.

Time is something we build agenda's off of, in time we will sooner no longer exist than be able to reflect upon ourselves.

Man has learned a lot of things, more than what a simple education system can teach, but Man knows more how to speak of his knowledge than apply it to the real world.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
At one time, I would have said "NO," that I was not capable of unconditional love, because I've had some family members who I hate already even though they haven't killed anyone I love. But there's a difference between hating your family members because they are always being ***** and hating someone who used to be the thing you loved most in the entire world. I haven't got any children, but my closest thing is Baggins, my dog, who I love more than anyone else in the world. I don't think anything he could possibly do would make me hate him now, since I've loved him so much already. If he killed my mom (somehow) I would be really mad at him of course, but he'd still be my Baggins, and I'll always see him as my little baby who I've got to take care of no matter what, and I imagine children would be about the same for most people.
Some love pets more than people. I think there is less drama with pets however you learn less from them , especially those wonderful dogs who never argue with you.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Ah yes, in time.

Time is something we build agenda's off of, in time we will sooner no longer exist than be able to reflect upon ourselves.

Man has learned a lot of things, more than what a simple education system can teach, but Man knows more how to speak of his knowledge than apply it to the real world.
We are eternal. There is unlimited time. When we acquire great wisdom, applying will be much easier.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Perhaps you need to stop relying on mankind's description of God. God is Unconditional Love. I do believe it is possible for all of us to achieve it.

Which god is unconditional love?

How did you come to know this revelation?
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Which god is unconditional love?

How did you come to know this revelation?
Isn't there really only one God?? There are many many children of God. If God exists, then God can be found. Sometimes people who search find what they search for. Perhaps it's time to start on your own journey to discovery. Since everything in life is a test of intelligence, I can do no more than give you a good starting point. If you look around you, God's actions are not hidden. Study, learn,and discover. Just like all the physics of this world add up, so does the people factor. There are many more variables so it's more complex however the basic system can be worked out. Discovery of any new knowledge in any field tends to open new doors for new discovery. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face. Who can see?? Without a certain amount of understanding, you will just end up confused by the experience. God is very very very smart. That's why so few, even religion, really understand. Understanding helps to build a good frame of reference. You must see what is rather than what you want to see. If one sees only what they want to see, can they ever see anything??? All mankind carries a very narrow view. It's something we all must work on. WE miss so much otherwise. Each must make their own choices in life. What to do now??? Hmmmm???
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Isn't there really only one God??

I don`t know, I`ve never met any god, gods, goddesses.

If God exists, then God can be found.

A few posts ago you were able to actually define what god is and now you`re unsure if he/she even exists?

Sometimes people who search find what they search for. Perhaps it's time to start on your own journey to discovery.

I`ve been on that journey for years, I`m pretty sure I know where it ends up.
I`ve been paying attention.
:)

If you look around you, God's actions are not hidden. Study, learn,and discover.

Well if they aren`t hidden then they don`t exist.
I`ve been looking a long time and have never witnessed a single action/property that could/should be attributed to a god.

God is very very very smart.

Wait a sec, now you`re defining god again??

Ok so far ..

"God is unconditional love"
&
"God is very very very smart"

How do you know these things?
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I don`t know, I`ve never met any god, gods, goddesses.



A few posts ago you were able to actually define what god is and now you`re unsure if he/she even exists?



I`ve been on that journey for years, I`m pretty sure I know where it ends up.
I`ve been paying attention.
:)



Well if they aren`t hidden then they don`t exist.
I`ve been looking a long time and have never witnessed a single action/property that could/should be attributed to a god.



Wait a sec, now you`re defining god again??

Ok so far ..

"God is unconditional love"
&
"God is very very very smart"

How do you know these things?
Hmmm??? Can't see??? I am pointing. One should never depend on others for all the answers. We are meant to discover on our own rather than have it served up on a plate. Religion and mankind have conditioned us to expect it served up on a plate. Truth and knowledge come to those who are hungry and search for it. What you get as a way of descriptions of God come from my direct experience. When I say, if God exists then God can be found, I am saying don't assume God can not be found and you must go through others or religion. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face. Are they really hidden from you??? Are you even looking???? You must widen the selective and narrow view that prevents you from seeing what is. How long did mankind watch birds fly before mankind figured out how. Was it hidden???? I think not. It's all a test of intelligence. The journey to discovery has never been a ten minute journey. It will take work.
 
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