Are you God believer (Yes/No)?

[meghanwaterlillies]

I don't understand the first two parts of your question.
But the last part is no. Creation isn't fair. That's just how it is.
And since Creation is all we know about God, there's no reason to think God values fairness either. We humans do, sometimes, but God doesn't.
Humans give purpose to things. God doesn't.
God just is, and His Creation just is. If we want to give things purpose we can. But God is not a human.

No. He created all kinds of stuff. From sand to galaxies and all the empty space in between. To think that we are special to God is hubris. We are a tiny bit of sapient matter on a tiny speck of a planet orbiting an ordinary star.
If we are to be cared about, we must do it for ourselves and each other or it just won't happen.
That is the foundation of morality. There is no God who will fix things later. We have to do it or it won't get done at all.


I know that you believe that. But I don't think that there is a reason to believe it except for wishful thinking. Nobody has ever given me a reason.
Tom

again the theory of relativity; they turn what was right into evolution. Son of Man smack that!

 

[columbus]

again the theory of relativity; they turn what was right into evolution. Son of Man smack that!

What does this mean?
theory of relativity?
Tom

 

[Trichakra]

I believe God exists.

I believe in god too. I believe that god is here for all of us.

 

[sun rise]

Hello everybody.this question to all members of RF whatever their faiths (theists or atheists)

I just want to know which more, the believers or disbelievers in God in RF community,how much percentage.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

I made a poll , so please VOTE
note: I intentionally don't add "I DON'T KNOW" option, to get specific/final decisions.

1. Yes there is a hearafter but not as conventional Christianity and Islam portrays it.
2. We judge ourselves by reviewing our lives with our higher self understanding where we succeeded and where we did not. Positive actions, loving, helping bring joy and negative, selfish actions bring pain automatically.
3. The Avatar is born on earth again and again to revive and renew humanities best qualities and lead us onward.

 

[Godobeyer]

I don't understand the first two parts of your question.
But the last part is no. Creation isn't fair. That's just how it is.
And since Creation is all we know about God, there's no reason to think God values fairness either. We humans do, sometimes, but God doesn't.
Humans give purpose to things. God doesn't.
God just is, and His Creation just is. If we want to give things purpose we can. But God is not a human.

I mean where is the problem that God will judge us (for our deeds), since He gave us free will .

No. He created all kinds of stuff. From sand to galaxies and all the empty space in between. To think that we are special to God is hubris. We are a tiny bit of sapient matter on a tiny speck of a planet orbiting an ordinary star.
If we are to be cared about, we must do it for ourselves and each other or it just won't happen.
That is the foundation of morality. There is no God who will fix things later. We have to do it or it won't get done at all.

I know that you believe that. But I don't think that there is a reason to believe it except for wishful thinking. Nobody has ever given me a reason.
Tom

It's like saying man produces cars for no reason.with no purpose. (just like that)

or God created us, and He forgot us,and He would forget us, He not suppose to judge us for our deeds !!

 

[LuisDantas]

Those are self-demanding premises.

Free will is not a very logical nor well-defined concept, but it had to be created in order to provide some attempt at explanation for the apparent limitations of an explicitly unbounded God.

Humanity does not "come with a purpose", but it is human nature to seek one nonetheless, mainly because it brings social cooperation which helps survival.

 

[Windwalker]

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

I believe in God. I do not believe any of those 3 items you listed. To me, those are believing in a projection of our human parents up into the sky to keep us good little boys and girls.

 

[David1967]

Hello everybody.this question to all members of RF whatever their faiths (theists or atheists)

I just want to know which more, the believers or disbelievers in God in RF community,how much percentage.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

I made a poll , so please VOTE
note: I intentionally don't add "I DON'T KNOW" option, to get specific/final decisions.

1- Yes I do.
2- Yes I do. (Hopefully not to harshly, as my faults are many)
3 - Yes I do.

 

[viole]

2 - yes, but not entirely as we have read. I don't think anyone could know for sure, because no one died and came from the dead except Jesus.

And Lazarus, and a whole army of dead guys at the time of crucifixion, allegedely.

Plus, some near dead folks, but they do not count. Obviously.

Ciao

- viole

 

[columbus]

And Lazarus, and a whole army of dead guys at the time of crucifixion, allegedely.

Bringing people back from the dead happened a lot more then than it does now. Because people really didn't understand much about medical concepts like "brain death". They were extremely ignorant about a lot of things.
Tom

 

[viole]

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)

Nope. That belief is a natural consequence of our innate need to survive

2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?

Nope. That belief is a natural consequence of our need for justice.

3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

Nope. Exactly because the claim is that He sends messengers. If He wanted to make Himself known, there are much more effective ways, than delegating proof of His existence to fallible humans when nobody else is watching.

Ciao

- viole

 

[arthra]

Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

For Baha'is.. Heaven and Hell are conditions of the soul/spirit not actual locations outside us. We do believe in an after-life ..that the soul continues after death. The soul we believe ascends to the spiritual worlds after death.

We are judged for our deeds on this earth ... every day.

Baha'is believe God sends His Messengers and Prophets for our guidance... Baha'is also believe God manifests Himself through His Prophets.. there are independent Prophets Whom we call Manifestations of God that bring us new laws that can meet the challenges facing humanity today.

 

[Quintessence]

Not sure how I should vote in the poll, given the wording. If you mean to ask "do you consider yourself a theist," I would mark yes, but I definitely do not consider myself a "God believer." In all the ways that matter, I reject the God you are probably talking about.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)

Not in the sense you probably mean, no.

2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil)?

The god you are likely talking about is not part of my religion or theology, so no. As for whether or not the gods I honor engage in such things? Most of the gods don't give a darn about humans, much less judging them based on arbitrary moral standards.

3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity?

With respect to the god you are likely talking about, I think it's possible, but as it's not part of my religion or theology, I don't really have a vested interest in having a solid answer to this one way or another. In my religion, such intermediaries are entirely unnecessary, so I find the entire "messanger" idea to be a bit weird.

 

[Godobeyer]

Not sure how I should vote in the poll, given the wording. If you mean to ask "do you consider yourself a theist," I would mark yes, but I definitely do not consider myself a "God believer." In all the ways that matter, I reject the God you are probably talking about.

Hello .
I made my poll to be extend to all believes by put "etc"
Are you God (Allah,Jesus,YHWH,Krishna...etc) believer ?

 

[Quintessence]

Hello .
I made my poll to be extend to all believes by put "etc"
Are you God (Allah,Jesus,YHWH,Krishna...etc) believer ?

Hmm. I recognize you were making an attempt at inclusive language, but it didn't quite make it there to me. When the word "god" is put in proper case like that, proper case means it refers to a specific individual or person. In the case of English-speaking countries, God (proper case) usually refers to the god of the Bible or the Abrahamic religions, not other gods or theologies. But even without that, I do not consider myself a "believer" in the sense that is typically meant in Western dialogues about religion. The phrase presumes faith-based religion and theology, of which mine is not. Saying I "believe in" my gods is like saying I "believe in" trees, storms, or goldfinches - that is to say, it's a bit silly.

 

[lovesong]

Not sure how I should vote in the poll, given the wording. If you mean to ask "do you consider yourself a theist," I would mark yes, but I definitely do not consider myself a "God believer." In all the ways that matter, I reject the God you are probably talking about.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)

Not in the sense you probably mean, no.

2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil)?

The god you are likely talking about is not part of my religion or theology, so no. As for whether or not the gods I honor engage in such things? Most of the gods don't give a darn about humans, much less judging them based on arbitrary moral standards.

3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity?

With respect to the god you are likely talking about, I think it's possible, but as it's not part of my religion or theology, I don't really have a vested interest in having a solid answer to this one way or another. In my religion, such intermediaries are entirely unnecessary, so I find the entire "messanger" idea to be a bit weird.

Hmm. I recognize you were making an attempt at inclusive language, but it didn't quite make it there to me. When the word "god" is put in proper case like that, proper case means it refers to a specific individual or person. In the case of English-speaking countries, God (proper case) usually refers to the god of the Bible or the Abrahamic religions, not other gods or theologies. But even without that, I do not consider myself a "believer" in the sense that is typically meant in Western dialogues about religion. The phrase presumes faith-based religion and theology, of which mine is not. Saying I "believe in" my gods is like saying I "believe in" trees, storms, or goldfinches - that is to say, it's a bit silly.

There's no need to be such a stickler about it. English isn't his first language and you know exactly what he means. There's no need to assume a lack of sincerity or inclusivity. We all get that your beliefs are different than ours but there's really no need to keep picking apart every word like someone's out to get you and insisting that everyone use the most ultra-super all-inclusive every-type-of-theism-ever definition every time they open their mouths. Give the guy a break.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

this question to all members of RF whatever their faiths (theists or atheists)

Do you want to know if we believe in one God vs not that one God, or are theists vs atheists? I assumed the latter and voted yes, I am a theist.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)

Do you mean life after the death of our current body? If so, yes. I don't believe in hell or heaven.

2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?

No.

3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

No.

 

[Kartari]

Hi Godobeyer,

Hello everybody.this question to all members of RF whatever their faiths (theists or atheists)

I just want to know which more, the believers or disbelievers in God in RF community,how much percentage.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

I made a poll , so please VOTE
note: I intentionally don't add "I DON'T KNOW" option, to get specific/final decisions.

No to all three questions. I consider the monotheistic theologies of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam to be fabrications of the human imagination.

 

[Ana.J]

Hello everybody.this question to all members of RF whatever their faiths (theists or atheists)

I just want to know which more, the believers or disbelievers in God in RF community,how much percentage.

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil) ?
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity ?

I made a poll , so please VOTE
note: I intentionally don't add "I DON'T KNOW" option, to get specific/final decisions.

I voted that the God does exist.

1) Yes, our should should exist somewhere after this incarnation is over.
2) No, he will not bother with this I guess. We are our own judges.
3) Personally no, there were enlightened people (prophets) who came to teach us love and live in peace

 

[Trichakra]

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)


2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil)?


3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity?

1- Do you believe there would be hereafter (hell/heaven)
Yes
2- Do you believe God will judge us for our deeds (good/evil)?
Yes
3- Do you believe God sent messengers to humanity?
Yes