Are you okay with prostitution and porn and are you fine with your family practicing them?

[Smart_Guy]

I don't think Smart Guy is referring to anime porn or porn with battery supplied objects. Or, maybe he is.

Nope, I is not

I mean porn to its full extent in the live human physical world.

Isn't the main attribute of light porn the absence of intercourse?

But I said porn, not light porn. That covers porn in its full definition, including sexual intercourse. Taking a job means accepting its full extent, or it is getting fired for not doing it right.

 

[Riverwolf]

I'd be totally okay with it.

 

[LuisDantas]

But I said porn, not light porn. That covers porn in its full definition, including sexual intercourse.

If you mean that this poll is not asking about non-intercourse porn, then this may not be the best wording to use. A full definition, by my understanding, would be fully inclusive and explicitly (pun unintended) apply even to fringe forms of the concept.

Perhaps "full expression", "fullly realized porn", or even "explicit" or "hardcore" porn would be better descriptors.

Taking a job means accepting its full extent, or it is getting fired for not doing it right.

It seems to me that the erotic industry is remarkably liberal on that regard. Many jobs are rigidly delimited in order to assure that the workers are hardly ever pressured beyond their confort zones. The full extent of the job may well be offering their voices with no visual element whatsover, for instance. Hardcore hentai anime, even famously hardcore ones, also exist. So do fully digital erotic products that do not necessarily involve live models. Many pornographers are somewhat self-employed or at least freelancers, come to think of it, and I get the sense that not too many of them are all that fond of intercourse-related products.

Maybe you want to emphasize the distinction between "just" erotic products and activities and pornography that involves actual intercourse. I don't know. But in that case, you are only considering a small percentage of what I personally would call pornography.

 

[Smart_Guy]

If you mean that this poll is not asking about non-intercourse porn, then this may not be the best wording to use. A full definition, by my understanding, would be fully inclusive and explicitly (pun unintended) apply even to fringe forms of the concept.

Perhaps "full expression", "fullly realized porn", or even "explicit" or "hardcore" porn would be better descriptors.

It seems to me that the erotic industry is remarkably liberal on that regard. Many jobs are rigidly delimited in order to assure that the workers are hardly ever pressured beyond their confort zones. The full extent of the job may well be offering their voices with no visual element whatsover, for instance. Hardcore hentai anime, even famously hardcore ones, also exist. So do fully digital erotic products that do not necessarily involve live models. Many pornographers are somewhat self-employed or at least freelancers, come to think of it, and I get the sense that not too many of them are all that fond of intercourse-related products.

Maybe you want to emphasize the distinction between "just" erotic products and activities and pornography that involves actual intercourse. I don't know. But in that case, you are only considering a small percentage of what I personally would call pornography.

Cool, thanks for the input

I did edit the OP for extra clarifications. If you had seen it, you think it is clear enough? I'm not really excluding non-intercourse porn, I'm just including the sexual intercourse as part of the full definition of the word. I think the sexual intercourse is the major part of pornography tho, according to the definition.

I think with the edits things are clear now, unless there is further advice.

 

[Smart_Guy]

We can stop the conversation right here, I'm just playing, as usual. Although, I have to confess I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

I can't believe Luis is missing up such a golden opportunity to have a conversation with you!

 

[Milton Platt]

Edit2:
Definitions:
Pornography
Printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
Prostitution
The practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.

The thread is about the full definitions of the two words. Poll options are about accepting them fully or no at all.

So then how do we determine the intent of a person taking a photograph? I see why pornography is rarely prosecuted.

 

[LuisDantas]

We can stop the conversation right here, I'm just playing, as usual. Although, I have to confess I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

Ah, good. My plan goes on as intended.

 

[Smart_Guy]

So then how do we determine the intent of a person taking a photograph? I see why pornography is rarely prosecuted.

Intents are a thing and what the job comes with is another. The thread is about what the job is about. Part of the job in porn, if not the main and typical part, is having sex and filming it.

Unless I didn't get your point, that is.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Provided that it's legal wherever we're talking about, I wouldn't have a problem with a family member doing porn in and of itself.

If they didn't actually want to do porn and felt driven into it out of necessity, I'd have a problem... but I feel the same way about anything they didn't want to do but felt they needed to.

My sister once took a job in the fish department at a grocery store. There's nothing wrong with that job per se; I'm sure there are plenty of people who could be happy in it. But my sister hated it, so that was a problem for me.

My position on porn is kinda like that.

 

[Skwim]

Porn and prostitution in general:

No problem with adult porn as long as there's absolutely no coercion involved, which includes drugging and bribery.

As for prostitution, I have no problem with the concept of men and women exchanging money for sex; however, the business is so rife with abuses and problematic consequences that I don't see it ever being acceptable.

So, as for a member of my family being involved in porn under the conditions I gave, as long as it's safe sex, no problem.

Prostitution? Definitely against it.

 

[NewChapter]

Hello all.

This one is mainly for the female role in the practice.

By being fine with a family member practicing them, I mean your own feelings and approval. Please don't refer to it being their choice and that you don't have the right to decide for them. Family includes mothers, daughters, sisters and wives.

Please do not debate in this thread. If you have a different opinion or view than someone else's, please state them without quoting or giving references. If you want to debate, start a new thread for that in a debating section. Quoting is only allowed to ask for clarifications, and without commenting on the answers.

Thank you for sharing your views and opinions.

Edit:
By prostitution and porn here I include sexual intercourse.

Edit2:
Definitions:
Pornography
Printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
Prostitution
The practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.

The thread is about the full definitions of the two words. Poll options are about accepting them fully or no at all.

Without getting too personally into my private business I will say that I am over 18 years of age. My opinion is that all who are over the age of 18 have the right to do as they like sexually as long as it is within their society's laws.

 

[Papoon]

Sex is fundamental to all life. The love of it is the love of life. I have enjoyed porn since early teenage. Possibly earlier - when I was very young (pre adolescent) I enjoyed the bra and panty ads in my mother's Woman's Day magazines.
I have worked in a sex shop selling porn and toys. It was very educational and often amusing. I had friendships with strippers who came in to buy bits and pieces, and they were interesting and smart women.
My daughter financed world travel doing erotic dance. Her godmother was a BDSM mistress.
I have learned so much about human behavior from porn, and in the end decided it is a very positive phenomenon. Now human sexuality is on full view. That is a good thing IMO.
Sex workers often provide services to the disabled, and to people with social phobias which prevent them engaging in the typical courting rituals.
Cultivating fear and guilt about sexuality is the truly dangerous perversion.

 

[Brickjectivity]

By being fine with a family member practicing them, I mean your own feelings and approval. Please don't refer to it being their choice and that you don't have the right to decide for them. Family includes mothers, daughters, sisters and wives.

Its natural to feel jealous of all kinds of things. You can be jealous of another man's woman, for example. You can be jealous of experiences of other people, even jealous of someone's character and being. "I wish I were that person." Jealousy kills relationships, so everything depends upon managing it.

I would feel that my sisters could do what they want, but I would also feel compelled to interfere. I would worry, and so I would not be ok with them getting into prostitution or pornography. It would affect me too much to be comfortable with it, even if they were happy and profiting.

Mom could do what she wanted.

Wife is a subject that I cannot answer about. I just have no experience, and I suspect that without experience of being in a relationship of that nature it would be empty to guess how I would feel. I'd probably have to divorce a couple of times before I got the hang of marriage.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Question: Why are women focused on here? Seems to be a double standard. Women are not fragile little damsels who are always submissive, helpless and on the receiving end. You do realize there's gay, bisexual and queer porn where guys are on the receiving end (both in terms of penetration and with BDSM practices), right? There's also lots of pegging porn where the woman is penetrating the guy. Add to that all the Dominatrix porn. Then there's tons of pro Dommes who make their living beating and torturing men (consensually and very sexily, of course ). There's also tons of transgender/transsexual people and men who are prostitutes/escorts. Even if the woman is on the receiving end, that doesn't mean she's being submissive. It's a complex thing.

Anyways, I don't care. Just as long as they were educated, in control of things, working with good people and possess the proper psychological profile for it (i.e. aren't abuse victims or have other issues that can lead them to disaster in it).. Street walkers may not even make up the majority of prostitutes. Many, if not most of them, are working through the Internet and put up ads on sites. There's no pimp involved, really. Most of them are college students and older. They do it because they like it on some level. Plus, it can pay very well.

Sex work also fulfills a deep need in society, as @Papoon mentioned.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

However I don't think those occupations should exist in an ideal society. Those occupations don't really serve a greater purpose of any sort.

Interesting viewpoint. 2 quick comments from my point of view;
1) Lots of professions don't serve a greater purpose of any sort.
2) Far as I am aware, these professions appear to be universal regardless of law throughout history. I stand to be corrected on that. But even an ideal society should give a nod to human nature if it is to be at all practical.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I have no issue with sex work or prostitution, but near as I can tell both industries involve substantial risk and unique issues which many other industries don't present, both to physical and mental health, and pragmatically in terms of work protections, etc.
So whilst I have no issues with the concepts of sex work, the realities of it would mean I would not be fine with a family member working in those industries.
Whether I could do a damn thing about it is an entirely different question.

 

[Sees]

I picked the third option...there are enough "Yes, I am" votes to have it covered

 

[MARCELLO]

Well,it depends on what you ''have''. an exhibition of 12 '' something deserves moving pictures.

 

[Papoon]

However I don't think those occupations should exist in an ideal society. Those occupations don't really serve a greater purpose of any sort.

An easy point to miss is that a lot of sex workers deal with the 'special needs' category of clients, by which I primarily mean people with disabilities.

Social support organisations use the services provided by brothels to allow their clients to have a sexual life, which is for most people part of a healthy and happy life.

An ideal society looks after the basic needs of all its members.

Edit - that last word was an unintended pun, LOL.

 

[Brian Schuh]

I like prostitutes, not just to hire them for their services, but also to be their friend. I'm trying to convince a couple of my prostitute friends to make some pornography with me. Does that answer your question?