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We should not claim The Truth based upon feelings.
Adherents of different religions claim different truths,
yet they cannot all have the one inerrant "Truth".
Feelings are unreliable for discerning truth & facts.
False statement you’re making that my relationship with God is based on feelings. Like you said feelings are unreliable. No one would choose the life of a disciple of Christ on feelings. That would be very short lived
 
You have physical evidence?
Yeah, my life the last 30 years, which you personally wouldn’t know. If you don’t believe me, fine. Go to one of your local Bible Church fellowships and talk to people and see for yourself, go to some baptisms and talk to people whose lives have been changed by Jesus Christ. I personally have witnessed hundreds or more.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah, my life the last 30 years, which you personally wouldn’t know. If you don’t believe me, fine. Go to one of your local Bible Church fellowships and talk to people and see for yourself, go to some baptisms and talk to people whose lives have been changed by Jesus Christ. I personally have witnessed hundreds or more.
One can believe that some supernatural force changed
one's life. But I see individuals making their change.
Again, you offer me evidence based upon how people
feel....IMO, an inadequate basis to claim "The Truth".
Evolution has physical evidence. It's testable by objective
means. So it has the great advantage of being disprovable,
ie, useful...as opposed to being "nicht einmal fasch".
 
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One can believe that some supernatural force changed
one's life. But I see individuals making their change.
Again, you offer me evidence based upon how people
feel....IMO, an inadequate basis to claim "The Truth".
Evolution has physical evidence. It's testable by
objective means.
I don’t and talking abiogenesis not evolution. These are feelings:
 

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Abiogenesis is also testable.
What are your tests for "God did it"?
(Objective tests, eh....not mere feelings.)
Already explained what I thought about Abiogenesis today and if you don’t believe in God then get your own materials to experiment with. Answer is you don’t have any materials that God hasn’t provided (nothing)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Already explained what I thought about Abiogenesis today and if you don’t believe in God then get your own materials to experiment with. Answer is you don’t have any materials that God hasn’t provided (nothing)
That's rather circular...claiming that God provided
the materials for objective testing of science.

It still appears that all arguments for God, Allah,
& others are based upon feelings, but nothing
tangible. Tis no wonder that so many religions
disagree about the fundamentals & the details.
Individual feelings differ that way.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Common sense is your enemy. Abiogenesis says there were materials arranged in a certain way for life to happen, organize, be sustained and evolve into the whole Universe, all by itself. First off for those who don’t believe in God, where did any of the materials come from to begin with. In the lab trying to prove abiogenesis you will also have to eliminate the scientist from the experiment who is acting as a creator in the experiment.
I will take God has life in Himself and the Genesis account any day. Fact is we are here on Earth living in an environment suitable for life that hasn’t been replicated anywhere in the Universe.
"Common sense" is just the claim of the ignorant. It amounts to an admission that you are wrong.

And no, abiogenesis says that life can and will arise on its own. The materials involved were here. They were naturally part of the world.

But before I go on I am so glad that you now accept the fact of evolution.
 
"Common sense" is just the claim of the ignorant. It amounts to an admission that you are wrong.

And no, abiogenesis says that life can and will arise on its own. The materials involved were here. They were naturally part of the world.

But before I go on I am so glad that you now accept the fact of evolution.
Lol, you lose, no common sense needed
 
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