Arming teachers is a great idea

[Shadow Wolf]

Ok, Have the teachers wear a uniform or some kind of symbol logo on there shirt to identify them perhaps.

That would essentially be a "HEY! Shoot at me!" sign for the shooter to watch for.

 

[Shaul]

BLM thugs? Seriously? So i guess the kkk are freedom fighters to you snice you mentioned David duke in a good way. Lol

I guess you also consider Dylan Roof to be a freedom fighter to right?

I didn’t mention David Duke in any nice way. I just pointed out that both he and Louis Farrakhan haven’t been found to directly go around shooting things up.

So we agree that the BLM thugs and the KKK are both morally repugnant.

 

[Jollybear]

That would essentially be a "HEY! Shoot at me!" sign for the shooter to watch for.

Heeeeey......thats a good point you got there.

Well, mayby it can be a suptle sign.

Perhaps a hat with the school name on it. Or logo on shirt with the school name.

Or, the teachers name on there shirt.

Or, mayby a CODE name that ONLY the police would know and no one else would.

Do you have a better idea for the police to identify the teacher without the shooter identifying the teacher?

Thats a hard thing right there.

 

[Shaul]

All 14 of his victims wer white, minus one who looked chinies. But none wer blacks.

So? That doesn’t prove whether he was indiscriminate.

 

[Jollybear]

So? That doesn’t prove whether he was indiscriminate.

Well, i think its evidence he wasnt trying to kill just blacks, if he was racist.

He is racist too.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

As I said previously I would never expect teachers to actively go out looking for the shooters. But, this way they would have a good chance of stopping a shooter if the shooter did come to their room.

...with their gun locked away.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Yes, better that the teachers are unarmed sitting ducks, right?

Whichever option leads to the fewest injuries and deaths total is the better one.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

There is no problem with training costs that can’t be handled simply and inexpensively. Most of the teachers that would volunteer to carry weapons have already trained themselves at qualified gun safety courses. Training costs are not a showstopper by any means and a incidental issues at best.

Got any evidence for these claims?

 

[oldbadger]

Got any evidence for these claims?

The above sent to another member......................

These 'arm-teacher' jokers think that if you go on a gun course that you're ready to go back to delivering lesson-plans just as before, but now qualified to become a gun-fighter at some unknown random moment, controlling a class of children, handling racing adrenaline and making life-death decisions 'at the drop of a hat'.

It's daft, but anything so as to keep on keeping on with all them fast-firing weapons that nobody really needs.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The above sent to another member......................

These 'arm-teacher' jokers think that if you go on a gun course that you're ready to go back to delivering lesson-plans just as before, but now qualified to become a gun-fighter at some unknown random moment, controlling a class of children, handling racing adrenaline and making life-death decisions 'at the drop of a hat'.

It's daft, but anything so as to keep on keeping on with all them fast-firing weapons that nobody really needs.

I think you're right, but I'm always keen to give them enough rope hear their reality based, well researched evidence for their claims.

 

[74x12]

...with their gun locked away.

... Come on now, do you really think that's a good point?

 

[Shaul]

Whichever option leads to the fewest injuries and deaths total is the better one.

Well as a teacher that deals with the prospect of guns on campus as a reality I must say that your willingness to let me be a unarmed sitting duck is pretty galling.

 

[Shaul]

Got any evidence for these claims?

Yes, myself. I’m a teacher and fully capable of bearing all the training needed to bear arms in the classroom on my own dime. That’s all the evidence needed.

 

[Revoltingest]

The above sent to another member......................

These 'arm-teacher' jokers think that if you go on a gun course that you're ready to go back to delivering lesson-plans just as before, but now qualified to become a gun-fighter at some unknown random moment, controlling a class of children, handling racing adrenaline and making life-death decisions 'at the drop of a hat'.

It's daft, but anything so as to keep on keeping on with all them fast-firing weapons that nobody really needs.

What's daftest is advocate'n the status quo.
Think about it....
Schools have no security.
They advertise being gun free.
No one can defend it...other than the cop cowering behind a concrete barrier outside.

No, that's daft, ya mewl'n, powdered wig wear'n, queen worship'n, 1812 war lose'n, Downton Abbey luver!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you have a better idea for the police to identify the teacher without the shooter identifying the teacher?

Simple: Don't put teachers into such a position. We already know the police are trigger happy against unarmed civilians. And we want armed ones to face SWAT teams with guns drawn? The effort and time is better spent on developing more effective evacuation guidelines.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Schools have no security.

Who says they can have no security? Even around here the school systems have school/campus police, a.k.a. those who have some training to deal with such situations. And, realistically, more guns has not reduced gun violence, so why should we expect arming teachers to have any different outcome?

 

[Revoltingest]

Who says they can have no security?

I observed what is, not what should be.

Even around here the school systems have school/campus police, a.k.a. those who have some training to deal with such situations. And, realistically, more guns has not reduced gun violence, so why should we expect arming teachers to have any different outcome?

The "more guns" complaint misses the point because it's not about total
quantity. It's about who has them when & where.
I advocate the right of vetted & trained school staff to carry concealed.

 

[Jollybear]

Simple: Don't put teachers into such a position. We already know the police are trigger happy against unarmed civilians. And we want armed ones to face SWAT teams with guns drawn? The effort and time is better spent on developing more effective evacuation guidelines.

Ok.....well...how about this then: still keeping with the symbol logo on the teachers, but in addition to that, have as part of the training for the teachers, that when police or swat show up, they immediately drop there gun and raise there hands.

And yell out that there the teacher.

The evil mad shooter will easily be identified then.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

have as part of the training for the teachers, that when police or swat show up, they immediately drop there gun and raise there hands.

How do we notify them of this?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

arming teachers is just adding more unstable combustible material to the fire.
They will just kill more students... probably though partition walls.