Arrogance of religion

[IamYourYahaweh]

ROFL!!!! So you think that random people with no authority asking you to come here somehow establishes you as the official teacher of Religious Forums????? That it puts you above us?????

I have news for you, bud. You have no authority, no title, no position. You are a regular Joe just like me and every other person in this forum. When you put on airs, all it does is make others disgusted with you, and then everything you say goes in one ear and out the other.

Now, if you are willing to let go of your arrogance, come back down to earth, and have a regular discussion with me and others, I'm all for that. I suggest you think that over.

Imagine thinking that somebody has to have authority in order for their opinion to matter. I never said I was above any of you, those are your own words. You just "put on airs" and yet it did not make me disgusted with you, more like invoked a sense of pity for you instead and it certainly did not go in one ear and out the other as you have claimed. Perhaps you are in need of teaching as well, only once you've self admitted that you require learning and are willing to learn

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

I would offer it is the arrogance of man that they would reject the Word given of God, for any petty reason they choose to do so.

Regards Tony

I'll let God tell me, not a book that has been the center of controversy and hate and war and disagrees with many many other books all claiming to be the word of God or God's.

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

You haven't even been a member for a week but several here begged you to come bestow your "wisdom". Who are these members? Anyone want to speak up?

**mod edit**

Now I know just a small part of how God must feel, trying to do good for those who don't deserve it and demanding proof of every claim or it is to be dismissed as falsehood, yet the books riddled with errors and contradictions are pushed out as non debatable facts. ****Mod Edit****

 

[Eliana]

Now I know just a small part of how God must feel, trying to do good for those who don't deserve it and demanding proof of every claim or it is to be dismissed as falsehood, yet the books riddled with errors and contradictions are pushed out as non debatable facts. Grow up I beg

Actually *staff edit* , Jews don't push anything out because we don't proselytize nor do we believe only Jews "go to heaven". At no point did I see anyone ask you to debate their beliefs or scriptures. If you aren't invited to do so, then you are the one being pushy.

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

Actually *staff edit*, Jews don't push anything out because we don't proselytize nor do we believe only Jews "go to heaven". At no point did I see anyone ask you to debate their beliefs or scriptures. If you aren't invited to do so, then you are the one being pushy.

I did not see anybody ask you to come here and start hating on my words and comments and speaking on behalf of all the Jewish people either and yet you did it. Jews have enough wrong with their texts and beliefs to go figure out, better focus there than partaking in another fight

 

[IndigoChild5559]

You said God doesn't protect us from our mistakes.

Yes, which has absolutely nothing to do with forgiveness.

I'm glad you agreed with me. It's still very frustrating trying to follow someone's thoughts when they are not presenting them in a logical manner.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Imagine thinking that somebody has to have authority in order for their opinion to matter. I never said I was above any of you, those are your own words. You just "put on airs" and yet it did not make me disgusted with you, more like invoked a sense of pity for you instead and it certainly did not go in one ear and out the other as you have claimed. Perhaps you are in need of teaching as well, only once you've self admitted that you require learning and are willing to learn

The remark of yours that I responded to was:

I was approached by several members here to come educate so don't speak for the general populous

The phrase "come educate" actually DOES put you on a higher level, that you are the teacher and we are the students. Now, if you want to walk that back, I support you.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Sounds like how some Christians will never get to truly know “Jesus”.

I never said never.

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

The remark of yours that I responded to was:

The phrase "come educate" actually DOES put you on a higher level, that you are the teacher and we are the students. Now, if you want to walk that back, I support you.

It does not imply that you personally or anybody else not willing for that matter will become the students. It is up to each of them if they are willing to ask and learn and accept words of wisdom or not.

As of now you are attempting to teach the teacher as if to put yourself on an even higher level. Spot the projections you spit out and the hypocrisy and just lose your weird ego

 

[blü 2]

More like itching to educate. Someone who brings up the word argument on a post like that could be said to be the one itching for one. Spot the hypocrisy and projection

This is a debate forum, and so labeled.

Here, your resort to accusations like "hypocrisy and projection" are entirely misconceived. Set out a reasoned case, and your evidence if any, and see how it all fares in debate.

 

[Jimmy]

It does not imply that you personally or anybody else not willing for that matter will become the students. It is up to each of them if they are willing to ask and learn and accept words of wisdom or not.

As of now you are attempting to teach the teacher as if to put yourself on an even higher level. Spot the projections you spit out and the hypocrisy and just lose your weird ego

I’d like to learn if you’re willing to teach.

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

This is a debate forum, and so labeled.

Here, your resort to accusations like "hypocrisy and projection" are entirely misconceived. Set out a reasoned case, and your evidence if any, and see how it all fares in debate.

If that's what you're about then go do it, don't tell me how to live my life

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

I’d like to learn if you’re willing to teach.

Depends what the subject is, but even a fool can provide knowledge whether intended or not

 

[SalixIncendium]

As of now you are attempting to teach the teacher as if to put yourself on an even higher level.

You don’t get to stroll into forum and proclaim yourself a teacher. Your contributions here will determine whether or not you qualify to be considered a teacher. Based on how your posts here have been received so far, you have some work to do to be recognized as such.

 

[Jimmy]

Depends what the subject is, but even a fool can provide knowledge whether intended or not

How did existence come to be and how will it end?

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

You don’t get to stroll into forum and proclaim yourself a teacher. Your contributions here will determine whether or not you qualify to be considered a teacher. Based on how your posts here have been received so far, you have some work to do to be recognized as such.

Well I am a teacher in real life so I believe the testing that was done during those times showed my qualifications. I also didn't "stroll in here and proclaim myself" as a teacher. It came out much later as a response to a petty individual like yourself and I stated that I was asked to come educate. Not once did I say the people who asked me did so with the intentions of being a teacher but merely educating others. Educating someone does not automatically mean you are their teacher. Only fools obsess over labels such as these. For the teachers can learn heaps from their students as I often do.

And based on how your posts have been received here thus far indicates you know how every single person who encountered my posts has received them, what a bold stance to take. Speak for yourself only

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

How did existence come to be and how will it end?

How do you know it came to be? How do you even know it is existence we are experiencing and how do you know it will end? Why would it ever need to? And if it did manage to end and there is no awareness of its ending then by the time it manages to exist again (300 billion years let's say) will seem like nothing because existence wasn't occurring

 

[Jimmy]

How do you know it came to be? How do you even know it is existence we are experiencing and how do you know it will end? Why would it ever need to? And if it did manage to end and there is no awareness of its ending then by the time it manages to exist again (300 billion years let's say) will seem like nothing because existence wasn't occurring

So you’re saying you think existence never ends/changes but you can’t be sure?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Well I am a teacher in real life so I believe the testing that was done during those times showed my qualifications. I also didn't "stroll in here and proclaim myself" as a teacher. It came out much later as a response to a petty individual like yourself and I stated that I was asked to come educate. Not once did I say the people who asked me did so with the intentions of being a teacher but merely educating others. Educating someone does not automatically mean you are their teacher. Only fools obsess over labels such as these. For the teachers can learn heaps from their students as I often do.

Good. Watch and learn. You may wish to approach this forum with an open mind and realize you may have something to learn. even petty individuals like myself, Only a fool thinks they have learned everything there is to learn.

And based on how your posts have been received here thus far indicates you know how every single person who encountered my posts has received them, what a bold stance to take. Speak for yourself only

Of course. I apologize for my ability to read and comprehend.

 

[IamYourYahaweh]

So you’re saying you think existence never ends/changes but you can’t be sure?

Yes