As Arranged, Trump Has Been Acquitted

[Milton Platt]

I’m not a legal expert, but I think it’s the same. It seems to all stem from the same Articles in the constitution at least.

I meant by that, I don't think the judges were impeached by the house and tried by the senate. But I'm not clear on exactly how a judge is impeached and removed from office, so it's Google time for me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So, nice try but no cigar.

Stating he's not a good or nice person, just because he gay, and because he's human, I am very glad I get to be alive to see those beliefs dwindle and die out, and have been identified as part who about 20 years ago began a trend of leaving behind your beliefs, a trend that has saw an entire generation and still to this day following in my footsteps in droves, a trend I helped start that is causing the numbers of those who adhere to your beliefs to decline. And good riddance. "Having a loving relationship is to drag someone to hell with you." It'll be less work for therapist and case managers who know longer have children psychologically and spiritually abused and traumatized by your beliefs, but the world will be a much better place when you're beliefs are utterly no more.

 

[Spartan]

Stating he's not a good or nice person, just because he gay, and because he's human, I am very glad I get to be alive to see those beliefs dwindle and die out, and have been identified as part who about 20 years ago began a trend of leaving behind your beliefs, a trend that has saw an entire generation and still to this day following in my footsteps in droves, a trend I helped start that is causing the numbers of those who adhere to your beliefs to decline. And good riddance. "Having a loving relationship is to drag someone to hell with you." It'll be less work for therapist and case managers who know longer have children psychologically and spiritually abused and traumatized by your beliefs, but the world will be a much better place when you're beliefs are utterly no more.

Neither you nor any future descendant of yours will ever see a world without the Word of God.

The Anvil that has worn out many Hammers -

Nineteenth century writer H.L. Hastings once forcibly illustrated the unique way in which the Bible has withstood the attacks of skepticism:

“Infidels of eighteen hundred years have been refuting and overthrowing this book, and yet it stands today as solid as a rock. Its circulation increases, and it is more loved and cherished and read today than ever before. Infidels, with all their assaults, make about as much impression on this book as a man with a tack hammer would on the Pyramids of Egypt."

“When the French monarch proposed the persecution of Christians in his dominion, an old statesman and warrior said to him, ‘Sire, the church of God is an anvil that has worn out many hammers.’ So the hammers of infidels have been pecking away at this book for ages, but the hammers are worn out, and the anvil still endures. If this book had not been the book of God, men would have destroyed it long ago. Emperors and popes, kings and priests, princes and rulers have all tried their hand at it; they die and the book still lives.”

“No other book has been so chopped, knived, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles letters of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet? The Bible is still loved by millions, and studied by millions."

 

[SoyLeche]

I meant by that, I don't think the judges were impeached by the house and tried by the senate. But I'm not clear on exactly how a judge is impeached and removed from office, so it's Google time for me.

Actually, they were - as far as I can tell.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Neither you nor any future descendant of yours will ever see a world without the Word of God.

It's dying out. No, I won't live to see it gone, but I've done my part to lead people away from it. And, we keep moving further and further away from it, as it continues to lose additional importance in life, even after it has lost so much significance that Nietzsche proclaimed god is dead. And we've kicked him since and have saw too it his life forces wanes further.

 

[Spartan]

I realized I phrased that poorly.
Not patriotic is what I meant. But I only added that because you'd been mentioned earlier in the sentence I partially quoted.

Nevertheless, I find the ability of the Basket of Deplorables to hand wave away such evidence, as exists, appalling. I see enough evidence that Trump is behaving true to form(self-serving, deceitful, and greedy) to want better evidence that he isn't. But apparently that isn't the Republican way anymore.
Tom

"But apparently that isn't the Republican way anymore"? Take a look at your own party.

Fifty years ago the Democratic Party used to be a more-or-less respectable enterprise. But today, in 2020, it's a much more sinister animal. The Democratic Party is now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders, pornography, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes, single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminal aliens, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few. Not to mention turning America into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

I just wish Democrats loved and respected American citizens as much as they love and protect criminal illegal aliens.

 

[Spartan]

It's dying out. No, I won't live to see it gone, but I've done my part to lead people away from it. And, we keep moving further and further away from it, as it continues to lose additional importance in life, even after it has lost so much significance that Nietzsche proclaimed god is dead. And we've kicked him since and have saw too it his life forces wanes further.

It isn't dying out. In the end all atheists will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev. 21:8).

Friedrich Nietzsche: "God is dead"

God: "Nietzsche is dead." (and probably in Hell)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It isn't dying out. In the end all atheists will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev. 21:8).

Won't happen, and I guess good thing I'm not an atheist. I dodged that bullet, apparently. And, realistically, Christians are so inconsistent and undecided they don't even agree on what hell is or if there is one.

Friedrich Nietzsche: "God is dead"

You do know he didn't mean a literal god who is literally dead, don't you?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

the world will be a much better place when you're beliefs are utterly no more.

There will be a day when the Christians are gone, sometime in the future. Perhaps not to far away. But you are mistaken about it being a 'much better place'. (2Thess 2:1-4) (Rev. 4-22)

Brings to mind a question. When historically was there a much better place where Christian beliefs did not exist?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Brings to mind a question. When historically was there a much better place where Christian beliefs did not exist?

It has been getting increasingly better despite the number of Christian adherants being on a continual and constant downward trend. More freedom, more liberty, less violence, less poverty, these things we are seeing happening, and while Christianity is in decline.

 

[Spartan]

Won't happen, and I guess good thing I'm not an atheist. I dodged that bullet, apparently. And, realistically, Christians are so inconsistent and undecided they don't even agree on what hell is or if there is one.

Many are consistent and agree. But then there's people like Nancy Pelosi who claims she's doing the Lord's work, except that legitimizing gay marriage and supporting partial birth abortion are not the Lord's work.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

It has been getting increasingly better despite the number of Christian adherants being on a continual and constant downward trend. More freedom, more liberty, less violence, less poverty, these things we are seeing happening, and while Christianity is in decline.

But my question was 'historically'. When historically was there a much better place where Christian beliefs did not exist?

Along those same lines I think one could ask, what country would you rather live in that has rejected the Christian faith? And how is it better?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But you are mistaken about it being a 'much better place'. (2Thess 2:1-4) (Rev. 4-22)

You're right. It won'tbbe a much better place. It will be Heaven on Earth without Christians telling ever body else how to live, without them trying to make their dogma into law for everyone, and without the hate, bigotry, and discrimination they give and demand special rights and privileges because the "Bible says so." Just imagine, Jews and queers and atheists all breathing easier because a group who has gave them so much grief is gone.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Many are consistent and agree. But then there's people like Nancy Pelosi who claims she's doing the Lord's work, except that legitimizing gay marriage and supporting partial birth abortion are not the Lord's work.

Yup. God demands aborted fetuses just be torn from the womb.

 

[Spartan]

It has been getting increasingly better despite the number of Christian adherants being on a continual and constant downward trend. More freedom, more liberty, less violence, less poverty, these things we are seeing happening, and while Christianity is in decline.

There can be no real liberty without virtue.

"Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence who was also known as the “Father of Public Schools,” once had this to offer: “The only foundation for a republic is…religion. Without it there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty.”

Don’t miss the significance of that last statement: “..without virtue there can be no liberty….” The principle is clear – a lack of virtue engenders bondage. As one writer noted, “Intemperate men can never be free because their passions give rise to their fetters (bindings).” The more liberties a godless people achieve, the more enslaved they ultimately become in their worldly obsessions.

Still another founding father, the Reverend John Witherspoon, mirrored Benjamin Rush when he declared, “…Civil liberty cannot long be preserved without virtue….”

The Moral Foundations of America

How did the liberty in Sodom and Gomorrah turn out?

 

[Spartan]

. It will be Heaven on Earth without Christians telling ever body else how to live, without them trying to make their dogma into law for everyone, and without the hate, bigotry, and discrimination they give and demand special rights and privileges because the "Bible says so." Just imagine, Jews and queers and atheists all breathing easier because a group who has gave them so much grief is gone.

Stow that rubbish. If anything is true it's the enslavement of formerly free individuals under liberal fundamentalism.

"Rather than truly embrace “freedom,” liberal fundamentalists seek to control virtually every aspect of the lives of the masses that are unfortunate enough to be under their fundamentalist rulership. They seek to outlaw SUV’s, impose smoking bans while advocating marijuana use, prohibit freedom of religious expression in government and public schools, advocate compulsory training in politically correct opinions and attitudes, seek to enforce Bible bans in schools and the workplace, embrace a de-facto litmus test against pro-life judicial nominees, seek to criminalize pro-life demonstrations through the RICO racketeering statute, try to squelch legitimate religious speech via “hate-speech” laws (note Canada), and generally engage in a wide range of behaviors designed to subvert the U.S. Constitution and traditional American values. It is certainly arguable, then, that “progressive” liberal fundamentalism substantially undermines the basic effectiveness of the government and other societal elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of liberalism, attempts to build a utopian liberal society in America have only led to heightened outbreaks of AIDS, VD, porno-related crime, social divisions, divorce, abortion, drug addictions, deficit spending, the welfare state, a crushing tax burden, the breakdown of the family unit, moral depravity, and numerous other such scourges which have resulted in enormous societal suffering and discontent. As a result, liberal fundamentalism is strongly associated with left-wing fanaticism, reverse-racism, anti-intellectualism, elitism, nihilism, godlessness, and societal violence."

Beware of Liberal Fundamentalism - Liberal Fundamentalism

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

You're right. It won'tbbe a much better place. It will be Heaven on Earth without Christians telling ever body else how to live, without them trying to make their dogma into law for everyone, and without the hate, bigotry, and discrimination they give and demand special rights and privileges because the "Bible says so." Just imagine, Jews and queers and atheists all breathing easier because a group who has gave them so much grief is gone.

You live in a fairy tale world. The only thing holding the judgement of God against the world is the presence of the Christians on the earth. Once that is taken away, and it will be as I showed you, it is nothing but judgement.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But my question was 'historically'. When historically was there a much better place where Christian beliefs did not exist?

That's not really a fair question as things changed very little over thousands of years. It's only more recently that slavery is widely banned, that most of the world has never had a greater chance at dying from old age, and that significant reduction sin poverty have been made. Even strong downward trends in crime have only been going on for about 20-30 years.
Now, if Christianity is so great and make people do much better, why did it take so long for things to improve? Why did things really start to get going during the enlightment era came, and secularizing the state proved to be better at preserving religious liberty than a religious state?

 

[We Never Know]

As arranged in advance of the trial by Mr. Trump, Mr. Mitch McConnell, and the Republican majority, Mr. Trump has been acquitted in the Senate of both charges on which he was impeached by the House of Representatives.

Senator Mitt Romney was the only Republican to cross party lines and vote to convict, which he did on the abuse of power charge, but not on the obstruction of justice charge.

The acquittal has the potential to give Mr. Trump unprecedented powers for someone occupying the office of president. It will be interesting to observe if he returns to his efforts to illegally throw the November election in his favor.

[Source, New York Times]

What are you referring to as arranged?
Fact is the dems knew they would not get 20 repubs to vote with them(needing 2/3 majority).
By knowing that the dems wasted a lot of time and money on something they knew they couldn't win.
And by doing so they strengthened Trump while at the same time weakened themselves.
From the start everyone knew the dem controlled house would vote for impeachment and everyone knew the repub controlled senate would vote for acquittal.
It was all nothing but a waste of time and money. IOW it was nothing more than shenanigans.
But the dems can tell the dem people we tried and that will suffice to keep their support and the repubs can tell the repub people we saved your butts and that will suffice to keep their support.
It's all a big game lol

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

That's not really a fair question as things changed very little over thousands of years. It's only more recently that slavery is widely banned, that most of the world has never had a greater chance at dying from old age, and that significant reduction sin poverty have been made. Even strong downward trends in crime have only been going on for about 20-30 years.
Now, if Christianity is so great and make people do much better, why did it take so long for things to improve? Why did things really start to get going during the enlightment era came, and secularizing the state proved to be better at preserving religious liberty than a religious state?

It is a fair question. When historically was there a much better place where Christianity did not exist? And, what country would you rather live in that has rejected the Christian faith? Do you know your berka size?

Good-Ole-Rebel