As Arranged, Trump Has Been Acquitted

[Shadow Wolf]

Let's say that someone.....Bob...travelled in time from 1980 to our time.
So Bob is unfamiliar with this whole controversy.
He's a reasonably intelligent fellow...high school grad, an atheist, & all.
Bob read your & Columbus's posts arguing that Trump colluded with the Russians.
He noticed that there were no excerpts from any reports cited.
Just impressions remembered.
Should Bob be convinced by what's been presented?

I would hope Bob is smart enough to poke around and look around upon seeing me unable to recall specifics but giving a specific source on where to find them.

 

[Revoltingest]

You might be interested to read this column from today's Globe and Mail (a Toronto newspaper). Don't know how long you'll be able to view it... Opinion: First a strongman, now a king – Donald Trump has become America’s modern monarch

More people going off the deep end...."strongman"..."king"..."monarch".
Really? They think he's a royal? They have no idea how bonkers such
ravings look to anyone grounded in reality. We knew all along that the
Dems had to week a case to convict in the Senate. The trial's result,
be it right or wrong, was a foregone conclusion....a big nothingburger.

The Dems should concern themselves not with booting him in Feb 2020,
but rather in Nov 2020. There they have an excellent opportunity...but
only if they get their act together. Listen to James Carville. He understands.
Give us someone voteworthy.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I'll tell you something - you may keep this post as a reminder come Election Day. I'd be mildly surprised if Pete Buttigieg wins the Democratic nomination. There's still a fair number of Dems who - because of their Christianity - won't vote for a Sodomite. But even if it is Buttigieg vs. Trump in the final election, Trump will trounce him. And he'll trounce him because of all the evangelicals and cross-over black voters who will elect Trump.

Then bully for him, and bully for America.

It's not about what you can do for your nation, but who you stick your dick into (and how often, and whether or not it's your wife -- which in the case of Trump it has very often not been).

Can you spot hypocrisy? I can.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh, and by the way, I personally find your continued use of the word "Sodomite" to be offensive. I am gay -- a nice person, quite moral. And it's amazing how often I find you Christians, following the dictates of "love" as desired by Christ, manage to hate anyways. I wonder why so few of you even notice that.

You may have found the problem of homophobes. If I never got a blowjob I might hate the world too. Especially those far more likely to get one than him.

Hmm. Come to think of it you may receive far more in that way than I do. I might begin to dislike you a little myself.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would hope Bob is smart enough to poke around and look around upon seeing me unable to recall specifics but giving a specific source on where to find them.

Bob won't do your research for you.
He's looking at what you present.

It's telling that no one convinced of collusion can
remember or access any specifics. They know
they have The Truth....they just can't explain why.
Faith based certainty.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Hmm. Come to think of it you may receive far more in that way than I do. I might begin to dislike you a little myself.

Trust me, at 72, there's little that I am receiving more than you. Or actually, none at all. No need to dislike me out of jealousy.

But it's all okay, because even if my love and I aren't cavorting much, the love is still there. And you know, that is really enough!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

More people going off the deep end...."strongman"..."king"..."monarch".
Really? They think he's a royal? They have no idea how bonkers such
ravings look to anyone grounded in reality. We knew all along that the
Dems had to week a case to convict in the Senate. The trial's result,
be it right or wrong, was a foregone conclusion....a big nothingburger.

The Dems should concern themselves not with booting him in Feb 2020,
but rather in Nov 2020. There they have an excellent opportunity...but
only if they get their act together. Listen to James Carville. He understands.
Give us someone voteworthy.

I think sometimes that you think I disparage you -- I don't. I have serious concerns, and strong doubts about where US politics is going.

But I do agree that the Democrats have a lot of work to do -- and also that they're not doing it yet. There was a time when I thought that Elizabeth Warren was policy savvy and electable -- well, that's gone. I think Bernie Sanders is way too far left to get any real traction in a general election -- the US is not anywhere close to his thinking. Biden is just the continuation of the past, and offers little to inspire people. Buttigieg is -- well, I won't go there, but he can't get elected. (As a gay man myself, I say that with some regret, but there you go.)

 

[Revoltingest]

I think sometimes that you think I disparage you -- I don't.

No way.
I find you unfailingly kind & civil.
Being a jerk is my job....& I appreciate your not going after it..

I have serious concerns, and strong doubts about where US politics is going.

So do I.

But I do agree that the Democrats have a lot of work to do -- and also that they're not doing it yet. There was a time when I thought that Elizabeth Warren was policy savvy and electable -- well, that's gone. I think Bernie Sanders is way too far left to get any real traction in a general election -- the US is not anywhere close to his thinking. Biden is just the continuation of the past, and offers little to inspire people. Buttigieg is -- well, I won't go there, but he can't get elected. (As a gay man myself, I say that with some regret, but there you go.)

I hope they deliver a worthy candidate.
But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Subduction Zone]

hope they deliver a worthy candidate.
But I'm not holding my breath.

Me too. Though almost any of them would be better than Trump, many could not beat him. Warren is too far out there and has made some serious gaffes that would all but guarantee her loss. Sanders too has made some statements that make him not the ideal candidate. I am beginning to like Buttigieg.

In the primaries candidates have to appeal more to the extremes of the party. That means the Democrats have to appeal to the far left and the Republicans to the far right. This can come back to bite them during the election. It is also a plus that an incumbent does not have to go through this process.

 

[SoyLeche]

Me too. Though almost any of them would be better than Trump, many could not beat him. Warren is too far out there and has made some serious gaffes that would all but guarantee her loss. Sanders too has made some statements that make him not the ideal candidate. I am beginning to like Buttigieg.

In the primaries candidates have to appeal more to the extremes of the party. That means the Democrats have to appeal to the far left and the Republicans to the far right. This can come back to bite them during the election. It is also a plus that an incumbent does not have to go through this process.

I’m still on the Buttigieg train, although Klobachar (sp?) is growing on me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I’m still on the Buttigieg train, although Klobachar (sp?) is growing on me.

Klobuchar, but then I used to read her father's columns.

 

[SoyLeche]

Klobuchar, but then I used to read her father's columns.

I was closer than I thought

 

[Spartan]

Reading "a different Bible?" Or reading the Bible differently?

If you want to go for a literal reading of the Bible, then be prepared to own slaves (or be owned as one) and to kill you children if they don't do what you want. That's all in there. Along with God himself killing innocents of all sorts. (Of course, I suppose, when God does it, it's a good thing.

The subject was homosexual sin, and you knew you couldn't justify it, so you moved the goalpost to slavery, etc., which you still don't have right. You lose.

 

[Spartan]

God forbid we wear clothing made from two different materials.

I wish you skeptics would someday do your homework so you know what you're talking about.

The Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary offers the following explanation for Leviticus 19:19

“Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee—Although this precept, like the other two with which it is associated, was in all probability designed to root out some superstition, it seems to have had a farther meaning. The law, it is to be observed, did not prohibit the Israelites wearing many different kinds of cloths together, but only the two specified; and the observations and researches of modern science have proved that ‘wool, when combined with linen, increases its power of passing off the electricity from the body. In hot climates, it brings on malignant fevers and exhausts the strength; and when passing off from the body, it meets with the heated air, inflames and excoriates like a blister’ [Whitlaw]. (See Ezekiel 44:17-18)

Do try to do your homework before leaping.

 

[Milton Platt]

As arranged in advance of the trial by Mr. Trump, Mr. Mitch McConnell, and the Republican majority, Mr. Trump has been acquitted in the Senate of both charges on which he was impeached by the House of Representatives.

Senator Mitt Romney was the only Republican to cross party lines and vote to convict, which he did on the abuse of power charge, but not on the obstruction of justice charge.

The acquittal has the potential to give Mr. Trump unprecedented powers for someone occupying the office of president. It will be interesting to observe if he returns to his efforts to illegally throw the November election in his favor.

[Source, New York Times]

Impeachment trials are always a sham. When a Democrat was impeached, a partisan vote also ended that episode. In congress, everyone is screaming "do as I say, not as I do".

 

[SoyLeche]

Impeachment trials are always a sham. When a Democrat was impeached, a partisan vote also ended that episode. In congress, everyone is screaming "do as I say, not as I do".

Of presidents they are mostly for show. There have been several federal judges impeached and removed from office though.

 

[Milton Platt]

Of presidents they are mostly for show. There have been several federal judges impeached and removed from office though.

I think that is a different process.

 

[SoyLeche]

I think that is a different process.

I’m not a legal expert, but I think it’s the same. It seems to all stem from the same Articles in the constitution at least.

 

[Spartan]

I am gay -- a nice person, quite moral.

So you say. I believe God and the Bible have a higher standard. No one is "good" except God (Mark 10:18).

And it's amazing how often I find you Christians, following the dictates of "love" as desired by Christ, manage to hate anyways. I wonder why so few of you even notice that.

Here's what you're missing:

For the record,

"Love does not rejoice in iniquity" - 1 Corinthians 13

And,

"Love does no harm to a neighbor" - Romans 13:10 (Love does no harm to a neighbor, like enticing one's neighbor into a sinful relationship for which there are negative temporal and eternal consequences)

So, nice try but no cigar.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Bob won't do your research for you.
He's looking at what you present.

It's telling that no one convinced of collusion can
remember or access any specifics. They know
they have The Truth....they just can't explain why.
Faith based certainty.

Im sure even you forget things after its been, what? Several months now? Over a year? Own personal recall failure is a thing, but so is saying it's in Comey's report. Bob can read more there if he wants because it's been sufficiently long enough I don't remember since I haven't looked at it sense.