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Ask me anything about the science of Evolution :)

sayak83

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So...

... were should I start searching for fossils? Have someone seen my T-rex fossil, it should be here somewere?! After we plunder his grave we can use that equipment to date its age, can't we!?
You will have to go to a well known dig site, carefully extract the fossils and the rocks entombed around it. The dating is usually done on the rock crystals in which the fossil is entombed, or igneous strata directly above or below the fossil.

Here are the most famous fossil sites.
NOVA Online/Curse of T. rex/Where to Dig/Sites

You may need a permit. Check your local natural history museum.
 

Subduction Zone

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$100000

No. I don't own them. The universities do. You have to enroll in an appropriate course in a university to use them while training.

Here is the lab equipments you would usually need.
Bureau Laboratories: Argon Lab: Hardware

Another more advanced Ar-Ar system is shown in the website below,
Argon-argon dating facility
Most of the equipment used is listed in the website. If you are interested, you should set up a good lab space and begin to order and set up your own equipments. You should also subscribe to professional journals to apprise yourself about whats being done.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/page/journal/1751908x/homepage/productinformation.html

I would also recommend enrolling in a geology course at a university to get a hang of it all. All the best. :)
extractionline.jpg

Cool stuff, and $100,000 seems cheap to me for all of that gear. But then advancing technology tends to lower the price of complex equipment like that over the decades. When I went to college the Argon/Argon dating method was not even developed yet. When I imagined a mass spectrometer I thought it would be a much larger machine.
 

sayak83

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Cool stuff, and $100,000 seems cheap to me for all of that gear. But then advancing technology tends to lower the price of complex equipment like that over the decades. When I went to college the Argon/Argon dating method was not even developed yet. When I imagined a mass spectrometer I thought it would be a much larger machine.
No its become quite small now. Benchtop.
 

sayak83

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Once again, I am impressed. I wonder what a gravitometer would run these days. The equipment was small when I went to school but very expensive. We were told to treat it with extreme respect.
I have moved to pollution chemistry and no longer use gravitometer. My lab mate used one though for his biochar burning analysis. Anyways, this is the kind of MS I use nowadays.
7250 GC/Q-TOF | Agilent
 

Subduction Zone

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When it comes to knowing that the Earth is old there are other methods besides dating that tell us that thousands of years is a joke. Radiometric dating only allows us to put a solid number on dates that were already known to be millions of years old, and the good thing about some of this evidence is that one does not need laboratory equipment that will set you back a house or two.
 

sayak83

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When it comes to knowing that the Earth is old there are other methods besides dating that tell us that thousands of years is a joke. Radiometric dating only allows us to put a solid number on dates that were already known to be millions of years old, and the good thing about some of this evidence is that one does not need laboratory equipment that will set you back a house or two.
True, but imagine every kid, instead of being shuttled to church on Sundays, get shuttled to the nearest university where they learn hands on cool science from the grads and undergrads!!
 
Humans got more then 700 senses, 4000 intelligences and i need to figure out this one... i have no clue right now. But the fossils says, come dig us up. atleast your teacher said go find it for me.

So were is the T-rex fossil?

It should be here somewhere!

I need assistance finding it!

As you been taught, seek and you shall find.

Were is my T-rex fossil?
 

sayak83

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Humans got more then 700 senses, 4000 intelligences and i need to figure out this one... i have no clue right now. But the fossils says, come dig us up. atleast your teacher said go find it for me.

So were is the T-rex fossil?

It should be here somewhere!

I need assistance finding it!

As you been taught, seek and you shall find.

Were is my T-rex fossil?
I posted a link with map locations in a previous reply. Check them.
 
The bible contain words of promise. The book named "the bible code" covers this topic with a crypted messege. I've read the arguments agains showing that the book Moby Dick could do the same. But that's not completely true. I wouldn't argue anymore about book "the bible code". The words of promise mentioned by apostels and diciples of our Lord Jesus Christ is basicly words and clauses from the bible cracking systems and rules set up for the diciples. You need memorize clauses like the diciples do and use them in certain situations to deliver you.


Jean I'm having trouble finding equipment, at a reasonable price, that I, or a bunch of mates, can use to authenticate your bible. Can you give advice?
 

Audie

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So...

... were should I start searching for fossils? Have someone seen my T-rex fossil, it should be here somewere?! After we plunder his grave we can use that equipment to date its age, can't we!?

Dinosaur fossils are definitely not for the casual amateur.

Too big, too heavy, usually in a very hard matrix, and
usually shattered into a million pieces. One bone can
easily cost into the thousands of dollars to get from field
to display.

Stop and examine the rock in road cuts, especially if you have a book on t he roadcut geology of your state.

A fossil clam is fun to find. You wont get any T rex.
 

Shaul

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wont=cant
I see where your basic problem is because you made two errors. First the correct equation in this case is didn’t=can’t. Second that isn’t true. Didn’t^=can’t.

I simply have not had time to post the support for two reasons. One, I have this thing I call “a life”, and two, a a Jew, I don’t post on Sabbath and had this holiday of Passover to do.
 

Shaul

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When people claim to have evidence and then never present it, we tend to think that they never had any evidence to begin with.
Evolution supporters certainly do love the word “tend”, don’t they?

I simply have not had time to post the support for two reasons. One, I have this thing I call “a life”, and two, a a Jew, I don’t post on Sabbath and had this holiday of Passover to do. I will post it soon as I can. You are free to close your mind instead of waiting to read it, of course. But that doesn’t mean you’re right.
 

Subduction Zone

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So...

... were should I start searching for fossils? Have someone seen my T-rex fossil, it should be here somewere?! After we plunder his grave we can use that equipment to date its age, can't we!?

You could start at the ranch mentioned in this article, back in 2005 it cost $750.00 for a week, be prepared to pay more due to inflation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/travel/digging-up-dinosaur-bones-in-the-fossilrich-badlands.html




Oh wait, I found their website and I was right. The cost for a week is now $999.00 (love the marketing):

Home
 

Subduction Zone

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Evolution supporters certainly do love the word “tend”, don’t they?

I simply have not had time to post the support for two reasons. One, I have this thing I call “a life”, and two, a a Jew, I don’t post on Sabbath and had this holiday of Passover to do. I will post it soon as I can. You are free to close your mind instead of waiting to read it, of course. But that doesn’t mean you’re right.

Supporters of the sciences usually try not to be dogmatic. What is wrong with that? Though there is a very rare honest creationist most tend to be a combination of being dishonest and ignorant. I have yet to meet an honest and informed creationist myself. That does not mean that there are any out there, but it seems to be very unlikely since the evidence for evolution is so clear.
 

Audie

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I see where your basic problem is because you made two errors. First the correct equation in this case is didn’t=can’t. Second that isn’t true. Didn’t^=can’t.

I simply have not had time to post the support for two reasons. One, I have this thing I call “a life”, and two, a a Jew, I don’t post on Sabbath and had this holiday of Passover to do.

Sometimes they are the same, if not in this case.
There was probably a touch of snark to it tho, for which I apologize.
 

Audie

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Supporters of the sciences usually try not to be dogmatic. What is wrong with that? Though there is a very rare honest creationist most tend to be a combination of being dishonest and ignorant. I have yet to meet an honest and informed creationist myself. That does not mean that there are any out there, but it seems to be very unlikely since the evidence for evolution is so clear.

Oh, really, lots of, probably most creationists are
honest enough. it is, though, impossible to be both informed and honest.

Exhibit A would be Dr. K Wise, a paleontologist.

"If all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate."
 
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