What they don't tell you is that his methodology is flawed. He freezes a large group of water molecules all at once. He sends vibrations or whatever, but then only focuses on the water molecules that come out 'representing' whatever emotion and ignores the rest of the sample. It depends too much upon interpretation and confirmation bias. If all the crystals in one group came out with the same exact representative forms repeatedly, then I might be more impressed.
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Astonishing- Water has Emotions
- Thread starter Farrukh
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The next step would then be to see how/if the Dr. addresses these criticisms faulting his work.
I don't know if it's true in this case but I know for others in the paranormal field, their work of course gets criticized by the skeptics but they then respond to these criticisms. And usually what happens with lay skeptics is that they stop with the initial criticisms.
Unfortunately, light study will always give us the conclusion we want.
Awkward Fingers
Omphaloskeptic
Had there been independent peer verification of his testing and methodology done?
Or even a solid explanation of his methodology and results that can be peer reviewed?
Or even a solid explanation of his methodology and results that can be peer reviewed?
I've never heard of anyone even trying.
(I got a couple of spare ice cube trays
)I don't know but would like to know too.
Your arguments suggested otherwise, but I'm glad to hear that this was a misinterpretation on my part.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that dividing the universe into "material" and "immaterial" necessarily relies on logical fallacies. IMO, "material" is just a synonym for "that which exists", and it's redundant to call a paradigm "materialist": all you're really saying is that the person only believes in the things he thinks actually exist. This is true for anyone.
Any person's paradigm - their worldview - is nuanced. When a person changes their beliefs about how things work, this constitutes a change in paradigm. There is no such thing as a "materialist paradigm". If the term means anything at all (though as I said, I don't think it does) there are uncountably many paradigms that are "materialist".
I think this is just playing word games. I use the terms 'materialism' and 'paranormal' in their normal colloquial sense. For example as defined by
Wikipedia.
I still don't see how 'materialism' as you define it can ever be falsifiable when it's defined as 'that which exists'. Materialism becomes meaningless with your definition. The colloquial meaning to me says something.
Well whatever, then what I'm talking about is the materialist worldview in the colloquial sense as in the definition I presented from Wikipedia.
... which still doesn't solve the problem of how one tells the difference between the "material" and the "paranormal". For instance, if psychic abilities were found to be real but based entirely on previously-undetected pheromones, would they still be paranormal?
It doesn't need to be falsifiable. It's a description, not a claim. "That which exists, exists" is a tautology and therefore true.
Not meaningless, just not particularly useful in day-to-day conversation. Philosophers might care about the idea that only things that exist, exist. I'm fine taking it as self-evident... though the same could be said of many other labels I consider true and valid.
I agree: it speaks of jumping to conclusions.
Even by that standard, it's still "worldviews", plural.
-draining water from swimming pools- "YOU CANNOT KEEP IT CONTAINED! IT DESERVESS TO BE FREE!!!"
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
I am appalled at the lack of even the most basic school level science understanding, of the hydrogen bonding that gives water its unique properties and unique crystals, implicit in the question and some other respondents . If the ice crystal grew left when you were sad and right when you were happy consistently you may have a case. However I think this is a straight forward case of Pareidolia
From Wiki
Pareidolia
Scientifically, such imagery is generally characterized as a form of pareidolia. This is a false perception of imagery due to what is theorized as the human mind's over-sensitivity to perceiving patterns, particularly the pattern of a human face, in otherwise random phenomena.[1]
It is suggested that a tendency of religious imagery in Islam to be perceived as Arabic words is made more likely by the general simplicity of letter forms in the Arabic alphabet (especially in the everyday Riq'a); a tradition of massive typographical flexibility in Islamic calligraphy; and the particular shape of the word Allah (الله. These factors make the word easy to read into many structures with parallel lines or lobes on a common base.
The cone nebula is regarded as some as a holy image of Jesus praying but really its just a pile of cosmic dust.
From Wiki
Pareidolia
Scientifically, such imagery is generally characterized as a form of pareidolia. This is a false perception of imagery due to what is theorized as the human mind's over-sensitivity to perceiving patterns, particularly the pattern of a human face, in otherwise random phenomena.[1]
It is suggested that a tendency of religious imagery in Islam to be perceived as Arabic words is made more likely by the general simplicity of letter forms in the Arabic alphabet (especially in the everyday Riq'a); a tradition of massive typographical flexibility in Islamic calligraphy; and the particular shape of the word Allah (الله
. These factors make the word easy to read into many structures with parallel lines or lobes on a common base.The cone nebula is regarded as some as a holy image of Jesus praying but really its just a pile of cosmic dust.
idea
Question Everything
That is what I was thinking, although it does not apply to a photo (unless you want to go to light f's I suppose) It needs to be repeated.
I think it is perfectly falsifiable.
All you have to do is to show something that does not exist
Ciao
- viole
I agree. I've come to believe there are emotional vibrations that exist above our physical three-dimensional world that effect us and things. I've come to believe our senses and physical instruments only see things within our known dimensions; which constitutes only the grossest crust of existence. How many dimensions are there in the universe??
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Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Emotions are simply another form of fundamental interaction, just like our consciousness. Everything interacts in some way due to the fundamental forces or interactions, therefore we shouldn't really be suprised if we find that water demonstrates some such peculiar abilities. The human body and brain is mostly composed of water anyway.
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Wait - I didn't know that there was an online video about it! If that's the case, it must be true.
I suppose the Escherian Stairwell is real as well, right? After all, stuff online that's purported to be real is always 100% true.
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The Escherian Stairwell - YouTube