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Atheism, Autism and Narcissism

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Like you did in many other threads?

I'm sorry, but it really is clear that you have a kind of pathological hatred of atheists and atheism, and the general tenor of the OP (which I have yet to see any actual scientific sources for) was obviously intended to paint atheists in a negative light by implying that atheism can be the result of a form of mental instability and narcissism. There was no balance whatsoever, and no real thinking about the subject from your point of view, just "Here are some statements linking autism and atheism - discuss". Do you not see how that can be seen as aggressive?

Honestly, why all the hate? Why are atheists such a sore spot for you?
They're not creative enough, or not religious enough, or too religious, or so I've derived from previous threads.
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
It is obvious that I left it open to question and unlike some other thread I am not making a blanket statement regarding a certain group of people.
Like you did in many other threads?

I'm sorry, but it really is clear that you have a kind of pathological hatred of atheists and atheism, and the general tenor of the OP (which I have yet to see any actual scientific sources for) was obviously intended to paint atheists in a negative light by implying that atheism can be the result of a form of mental instability and narcissism. There was no balance whatsoever, and no real thinking about the subject from your point of view, just "Here are some statements linking autism and atheism - discuss". Do you not see how that can be seen as aggressive?

Honestly, why all the hate? Why are atheists such a sore spot for you?

why did you leave off half her quote?
You know, the part where she said "In no way have I said that all atheist are either autistic or narcissistic."

This is what she said:
It is obvious that I left it open to question and unlike some other thread I am not making a blanket statement regarding a certain group of people. In no way have I said that all atheist are either autistic or narcissistic. If you take that as passive-aggressiveness then so be it.
:sarcastic
 
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Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
why did you leave off half her quote?
You know, the part where she said "In no way have I said that all atheist are either autistic or narcissistic."
:sarcastic

Because people say all sorts of things without actually saying them. We call it "implying".
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
Because people say all sorts of things without actually saying them. We call it "implying".

To purposely eave off important parts of ones statement to deem it not what the person actually said is basically just putting words in ones mouth/twisting what they said, to have something to argue with them about.

People do that a lot here, instead of trying to find a middle ground and learn from each other, they just talk over each other and take each other out of context on purpose, just to make their own arguments better.

Plus, it's unfair to the person, because others will read the half baked quotes and gain the wrong impression of said persons arguments and in the end, the whole thread suffers and noone gets anywhere.
 
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
To purposely eave off important parts of ones statement to deem it not what the person actually said is basically just putting words in ones mouth/twisting what they said, to have something to argue with them about.

People do that a lot here, instead of trying to find a middle ground and learn from each other, they just talk over each other and take each other out of context on purpose, just to make their own arguments better.

Plus, it's unfair to the person, because others will read the half baked quotes and gain the wrong impression of said persons arguments and in the end, the whole thread suffers and noone gets anywhere.
See rule #3 from the Forum Rules :yes:
 

edwinic

Member
And know what you are about to read next might sound like an unethical experiment, well because it is. At times I have used figurative language purposely when in discussions with certain atheists and often times they were unable to decode what I was saying. In fact I would do this several times with the same atheists and the results would often be the same, they would either take what I said literally or they seemed to be confused at what I was trying to convey figuratively. So I do believe that some atheists might indeed have some form of autism.

Your thoughts.
Im reading your post for the first time. I got interested in your "figurative language" that some atheist were not able to decode.

I also read some autism, very quickly, from the web. And i wish to know if i have/tendency to be autistic.

So far, i dont see anything wrong when someone cannot grasp a figurative speech or say, methapore. I thought that some people are born that way. They call spade a spade.

Admittedly, there are phrases or sayings that i am having hard time understanding.

Can you cite some example of your experiment? And if it has been discuss, can you direct me to the pages?

Thank you (now I start to read)
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
Those complaining about the OP, think about this next time you call religious people delusional for believing in God, it can go both ways ;)
Most atheists I come across claim that religious people are delusional, not all, but most, even in this board I have seen it said.

I am in the middle, not atheist, believe there is something, but not sure what.
So I can see it from both angles.

As the saying goes, whats good for the goose is good for the other goose. :p
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Those complaining about the OP, think about this next time you call religious people delusional for believing in God, it can go both ways ;)

It sure can. But do you expect us to care about that?

That would be... let's just say that it would be unwise.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Those complaining about the OP, think about this next time you call religious people delusional for believing in God, it can go both ways ;)
Most atheists I come across claim that religious people are delusional, not all, but most, even in this board I have seen it said.
Please point me in the direction of the latest thread which implied religiousness is linked mental instability or personality disorders which wasn't largely derided by theists and atheists alike.

I am in the middle, not atheist, believe there is something, but not sure what.
So I can see it from both angles.
There is no such position. You either believe there is a God, or you do not believe there is a God. You can't be both or neither. Also, fallacy of the middle ground. Just because you proclaim a middle-ground position doesn't mean you're automatically more informed or capable of making a better decision.

The problem we have with this thread isn't that it's simply insulting atheists - there have been a lot of those, and we've dealt with those perfectly reasonably (at times). The problem is that the forum member who started this thread seems to start them purely with the intention of insulting atheists, and has done so on multiple occasions. That was the point of my earlier post - the point you seemed to miss entirely.
 
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