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Atheism: The Great Nothing!

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Its relevant because we have swallowed this business of being the offspring of Apes, its incredible that we think we are the offspring of animals!

Animals of all things. We are the birth of beast.

And people really believe in this, rather than believe in creation.

Peace.
For some, at least, creation is "the birth of beast."
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Its relevant because we have swallowed this business of being the offspring of Apes, its incredible that we think we are the offspring of animals!

No, you've swallowed this business of lying about evolutionary theory.

And people really believe in this, rather than believe in creation.

The people that believe these moronic lies about evolutionary theory, are, in fact, the same people that claim to believe in creationism.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Its relevant because we have swallowed this business of being the offspring of Apes, its incredible that we think we are the offspring of animals!

Animals of all things. We are the birth of beast.

And people really believe in this, rather than believe in creation.

Peace.

We are animals ourselves. Animals with a slightly notable abstraction capability and the power of language, but still very much animals. Denying that is rather pointless.

As for believing in creationism, that poses some very major challenges, such as for instance how to explain all the failed creations; how and why do deny the evidence of evolutionism; and why would a god-designed proccess prove so damned faulty, to the point of allowing for people to die out of blood incompatibility with their own mothers and even to be born without a functional brain.

If Creationism is true, then God has some major explaining to do.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
We are animals ourselves. Animals with a slightly notable abstraction capability and the power of language, but still very much animals. Denying that is rather pointless.

As for believing in creationism, that poses some very major challenges, such as for instance how to explain all the failed creations; how and why do deny the evidence of evolutionism; and why would a god-designed proccess prove so damned faulty, to the point of allowing for people to die out of blood incompatibility with their own mothers and even to be born without a functional brain.

If Creationism is true, then God has some major explaining to do.


Well I agree, an explination is needed.

I just don't see anyone other than God who is able to explain it.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
No, you've swallowed this business of lying about evolutionary theory.



The people that believe these moronic lies about evolutionary theory, are, in fact, the same people that claim to believe in creationism.


Well again I agree, its just that we need to know more than we do.

I only wish I knew more.

Peace.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Its relevant because we have swallowed this business of being the offspring of Apes, its incredible that we think we are the offspring of animals!

Animals of all things. We are the birth of beast.

And people really believe in this, rather than believe in creation.

Peace.

Biology is haaaaaaaaaaaard.

You clearly have no idea what the theory of evolution even is, yet you still try to debate it? Humans are animals. We're certainly not vegetable or mineral.

You so want to get into this.
 
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mickiel

Well-Known Member
Biology is haaaaaaaaaaaard.

You clearly have no idea what the theory of evolution even is, yet you still try to debate it? Humans are animals. We're certainly not vegetable or mineral.

You so want to get into this.


Humans are not animals in my view. An animal ia an animal, a human is a human, two entirely different lifeforms.

Peace.
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
Humans are not animals in my view. An animal ia an animal, a human is a human, two entirely different lifeforms.

Peace.

Can you please indicate what separates a human from an animal.

EDIT: Oh, and hi btw :) Haven't seen you around for a bit. Hope you're well.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
mickiel,

You give atheism far too much credit.

It isn`t "nothing" but it ain`t much more than that.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
Humans are not animals in my view. An animal ia an animal, a human is a human, two entirely different lifeforms.

With this comment you have illustrated that you are delusional, uneducated and ignorant. I think it is safe to ignore your comments until further notice. ;)


For those who think I am being harsh:
Delusion: a belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument.
Uneducated: having or showing a poor level of education.
Ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness; uneducated or unsophisticated.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Can you please indicate what separates a human from an animal.

EDIT: Oh, and hi btw :) Haven't seen you around for a bit. Hope you're well.


I am pleased to do as such;

Humans hold Consciousness which is far advanced from animals.

Humans have advanced language; as well as;

Technology; Animals cannot invent technology.

Humans can read and write at levels its impossible for animals to even do.

Humans can build and construct things that no animal ever has or ever will be able to do; --WHY, because our Consciousness is totally different and far superior to animals, we are not continious with the idiot heirarchacy of speechless apes.

Humans can create and build on their creations, animals can do no such thing at our levels.

Humans can create, design and build vechicles, then drive them, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an animal to do that. And Idiotic to suggest that they could.

Humans have religion, NO animal has a religion.

Peace.
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
Humans hold Consciousness which is far advanced from animals.

Including the mentally retarded?

Humans have advanced language

There are Amazonian tribes with vocabularies under 100 words. A gorilla called Koko was able to use a wide range of sign language, and even combine existing signs to create new words; e.g. 'water' and 'fruit' for a watermelon.

Technology; Animals cannot invent technology.

Define technology? Earliest humans were using sticks and rocks. Apes use sticks and rocks. Are you saying that people with higher levels of technology are more human in some way?

Humans can read and write at levels its impossible for animals to even do.

Mentally retarded people can't. Does that exclude them from being 'human'?

Humans can build and construct things that no animal ever has or ever will be able to do; --WHY, because our Consciousness is totally different and far superior to animals, we are not continious with the idiot heirarchacy of speechless apes.

So essentially, because we are more intelligent, we are human. But if we are judging by intelligence, that would exclude the mentally retarded.

Humans can create and build on their creations, animals can do no such thing at our levels.

US scientists can also outmatch Amazonian tribes at 'creating' and 'building' at an incredible disparity. Again, does that make Amazonian tribes inferior?

Humans can create, design and build vechicles, then drive them, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an animal to do that. And Idiotic to suggest that they could.

Ah. So we weren't human until the bicycle was invented?

Humans have religion, NO animal has a religion.

I don't have a religion. Does that make me not human?

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See, Mickiel, here's your problem.

You are asked where the boundary lies between animals and humans.

You respond by giving a list of things that animals can't do.

But there are also humans who can't do these things, which you still classify as human.

I assume your comeback will be 'But most humans can'

Then we're back to square one.

How do you define humans? You can't say 'the majority of X are Y' until you first define X. And you can't define X by saying the majority can do Y, because X remains undefined.
 

I.S.L.A.M617

Illuminatus
I am pleased to do as such;

Humans hold Consciousness which is far advanced from animals.

Humans have advanced language; as well as;

Technology; Animals cannot invent technology.

Humans can read and write at levels its impossible for animals to even do.

Humans can build and construct things that no animal ever has or ever will be able to do; --WHY, because our Consciousness is totally different and far superior to animals, we are not continious with the idiot heirarchacy of speechless apes.

Humans can create and build on their creations, animals can do no such thing at our levels.

Humans can create, design and build vechicles, then drive them, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an animal to do that. And Idiotic to suggest that they could.

Humans have religion, NO animal has a religion.

Peace.
Humans are just really smart animals.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Many evolutionist have tried to argue that humans are 99% simular chemically to apes, and I agree that blood precipitation test do actually indicate that the chimpanzee is our closest relative. Yet reguarding that we must also then accept the following;

Milk chemistry test indicates that the Donkey is mans closest relative.

Cholestrol level test indicate that the Garter Snake is mans closest relative.

Tear enzyme chemistry indicates that the Chicken is mans closest relative.

Listen, on the basics of another recent blood chemistry test, the Butter Bean is mans closest relative.

I consider such things as baseless induendo, just useless speculation and unreliable at best.

And I am not going for it.

Peace.
 
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