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Atheism

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
Why can't I meet an atheist like this guy?

If I did, I wonder if we could get along, how long the cordiality would last.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
Why can't I meet an atheist like this guy?

If I did, I wonder if we could get along, how long the cordiality would last.

His views actually mirror my own fairly accurate.

A. Hughman has his own channel on Youtube and he has plenty of excellent videos up. I recommend checking them out. :)
 

St Giordano Bruno

Well-Known Member
A perfect scientific pantheist like myself. I too look up in awe at the sky, especially when I was camping out in the desert in central Australia and the spectacular rock formation of Ularu was the most hardest hitting example of proof of the unfathomable antiquity of the Earth. It had millions of years of geological history screaming out at you.
 
Why can't I meet an atheist like this guy?

If I did, I wonder if we could get along, how long the cordiality would last.

Why do you want an atheist guy? Wouldn't it be easier to have a relationship with a fellow Christian? :confused:

Perhaps you could consider the fact that there may be a considerable difference between an angry person, and a person who finds you annoying. I am reminded of a character from a Douglas Adams book who, unbeknownst to himself, was the god of rain, rain worshipped him and followed him wherever he went, consequently he believed that it was always raining, another alternative would be a confirmation bias on your part, i.e you expect atheists to be angry and bitter and thus you either actively seek out the angry and bitter atheists or you only remember the ones that conformed to your preconceived archetype of atheism.

The third option of course is that all atheists are angry, which opens up the follow up debates of cause and effect (are they angry because they are atheists, or are they atheists because they are angry), there are other factors we should consider as well, such as is anger ever justified, is it ones moral duty to modify our actions to try and help a person deal with their anger, is it our moral duty not to try and help a person if they don't want our help.

It's a minefield.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
Why do you want an atheist guy? Wouldn't it be easier to have a relationship with a fellow Christian? :confused:

Perhaps you could consider the fact that there may be a considerable difference between an angry person, and a person who finds you annoying. I am reminded of a character from a Douglas Adams book who, unbeknownst to himself, was the god of rain, rain worshipped him and followed him wherever he went, consequently he believed that it was always raining, another alternative would be a confirmation bias on your part, i.e you expect atheists to be angry and bitter and thus you either actively seek out the angry and bitter atheists or you only remember the ones that conformed to your preconceived archetype of atheism.

The third option of course is that all atheists are angry, which opens up the follow up debates of cause and effect (are they angry because they are atheists, or are they atheists because they are angry), there are other factors we should consider as well, such as is anger ever justified, is it ones moral duty to modify our actions to try and help a person deal with their anger, is it our moral duty not to try and help a person if they don't want our help.

It's a minefield.

For me, atheists are angry to show that they are atheists. The world is not the way they would like it to be and so to assert their identity as atheists they raise hell. I've never met a feminist who had no problem with the patriarchy or the plight of women. I've never heard of a PETA member who was indifferent to animal abuses or the existence of the fur trade.

Some people are defined by their anger.
 
For me, atheists are angry to show that they are atheists. The world is not the way they would like it to be and so to assert their identity as atheists they raise hell. I've never met a feminist who had no problem with the patriarchy or the plight of women. I've never heard of a PETA member who was indifferent to animal abuses or the existence of the fur trade.

Some people are defined by their anger.

So it is a confirmation bias.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Freedom, Just Freedom, Simply Freedom. A life of Freedom, only freedom. Who would want that.
 
Freedom, Just Freedom, Simply Freedom. A life of Freedom, only freedom. Who would want that.

Freedom to be angry and bitter :p

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Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
So it is a confirmation bias.

Yes, it is. A reponse to the confirmation biases of others, made about me and mine. In a more perfect world, we wouldn't do this to each other. Despite what you think, I don't indulge myself in hating people. I don't relish it. I don't clothe myself in it or celebrate it. Hate is toxic. Look what it did to Christopher Hitchens. Look what kind of shape he's in now after carrying all that hate around with him for so many years.
 
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Yes, it is. A reponse to the confirmation biases of others, made about me and mine. In a more perfect world, we wouldn't do this to each other. Despite what you think, I don't indulge myself in hating people. I don't relish it. I don't clothe myself in it or celebrate it. Hate is toxic. Look what it did to Christopher Hitchens. Look what kind of shape he's in now after carrying all that hate around with him for so many years.

I must be misunderstanding you, (my own biases in play no doubt) are you saying that you have a bias but you are going to roll with it?
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
I must be misunderstanding you, (my own biases in play no doubt) are you saying that you have a bias but you are going to roll with it?

Yes.

I don't think it's realistic for a person to have no biases at all. Bias can be value-neutral as well as value-specific.
 
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