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ATHEIST ONLY: Atheist View On Abortion

frg001

frg001

Complex bunch of atoms
Makaveli said:
Before I answer, I must ask you, how often do such scenarios occur? On one hand, I am obliged to say that the potential for life is still the potential for life, whether it is a product of rape, an underage mother, or it is deformed, and that rectifying a wrong with another wrong isn't the right way to go about things. However, telling a woman that has been raped, or that is 13, or has a mentally or physically stunted child that she must keep it is also a wrong.

Therefore, I would have to say that these are exceptions to the rule, for the wrongs already perpetrated outweigh the wrong of an abortion.
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I'm glad you agree :) As for the rest, I detest abortion, but would rather see it legal, safe and controlled, than done in backstreets by dodgy doctors receiving bundles of cash for their work.
 
leahrachelle

leahrachelle

Active Member
Therefore, I would have to say that these are exceptions to the rule, for the wrongs already perpetrated outweigh the wrong of an abortion.[/quote]

Since when did two wrongs make a right..?
 
darkendless

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
rojse said:
Do you sympathise with people that sell heroin?
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No, but i do not blame them, its the buyers choice to buy it.

What i mean is making say a band illegal in a country because of their content (such as Mayhem) because of the content of their lyrics and their onstage antics. Its sympathizing.
Much the same as pro-life people (well all the ones that have come to my house (8)) have been strongly Christian in some form or another. By banning it the government would be sympathizing towards their religious views somewhat. I do however recognise non-religious people who find it an abomination, but with everything else, people will just simply disagree with things.
 
frg001

frg001

Complex bunch of atoms
rojse said:
Do you sympathise with people that sell heroin?
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Can I answer this? Personally I have no problem with people who sell quality drugs of any description, so long as they are not pushing them, or involved in illegal activity other than that of selling. I say this as someone who would like to see decriminalisation of all drugs for many reasons, but it's OT so I'll leave it their...maybe another post sometime :)
 
stacey bo bacey

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
I'm pro-choice only because keeping it legal keeps it safe and clean. Oh and also making a law that rules over someone's body like that is scary to me.
 
stacey bo bacey

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
whereismynotecard said:
It isn't any safer for the baby though. :(
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I know. :( Trust me, I detest abortion...but very, very unfortunately the baby doesn't have any say in the matter. So if someone is going to have an abortion, I'd rather it be safe, clean and legal so they don't get infected/die AND become a criminal.

I'm against abortion in all cases...even rape and incest, but...if I had to choose for it to be legal or illegal, I choose legal for those reasons above. It's hard for me to have to compromise like that, but...
 
leahrachelle

leahrachelle

Active Member
Father Heathen said:
So your comfortable with a 13 year old rape victim trying to dig a fetus out of herself with a coat hanger?
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No, of course not.
But if few thousand extra of those save millions of other babies, yeah, I'm okay with that.
How hard is it to give it up for adoption, really..
 
rojse

rojse

RF Addict
leahrachelle said:
No, of course not.
But if few thousand extra of those save millions of other babies, yeah, I'm okay with that.
How hard is it to give it up for adoption, really..
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Probably not as hard as finding someone who will actually take care of the child, so that they might have a chance at growing up in a decent family environment.
 
leahrachelle

leahrachelle

Active Member
rojse said:
Probably not as hard as finding someone who will actually take care of the child, so that they might have a chance at growing up in a decent family environment.
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So maybe they won't be loved like they should; this shouldn't even matter. It is not our decision whether they have the right to live or not. And it is completely ignorant to say that we know what is best for them or what they would want.
 
rojse

rojse

RF Addict
leahrachelle said:
So maybe they won't be loved like they should; this shouldn't even matter.
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It does, though - what effects do you think that an orphan's home environment might have on said child's development? Perhaps "not being loved like they should" sounds like a high-brow complaint, but a poor home environment leads to fewer opportunities in life.

leahrachelle said:
It is not our decision whether they have the right to live or not.
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Of course it isn't, it's the prospective mother's choice.

leahrachelle said:
And it is completely ignorant to say that we know what is best for them or what they would want.
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Who is this "them" or "they" that you discuss? The mother? The potential child?
 
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