Father Heathen
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Not sure what that has to do with my post, but what exactly would the litmus test be to determine a real god from a false god?
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Atheist trying to convert Theist!
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Not sure what that has to do with my post, but what exactly would the litmus test be to determine a real god from a false god?
Uh, yes we can, and we do. We use our brains for EVERYTHING we do.
You might want to be a bit more tactical about your choice of words.
aindiachai
New Member
Any given belief a theist has may not be inherently dangerous, but I never said that it was. The position that a theist takes, belief despite or in the face of evidence, is inherently dangerous. If a person takes no consideration for evidence, or the lack there of, for a belief then nothing can constrain their actions. Do you argue that it is otherwise?
So the evidence you require that theism is inherently dangerous is that -every- theist has to be out to kill someone? So was pre-1930's Austro-German antisemitism not inherently dangerous because not -every- antisemitic Austro-German was going to go out and join the SS? (FYI it's not a Godwin if the comparison is actually relevant.)
Gloone
Well-Known Member
Reason only rules when people allow it to. Studying or trying to understand the cosmos is something that people have been trying to do for eons.
Gloone
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Okay we use our brains for everything even when people don't use them.
Gloone
Well-Known Member
The understanding of god and how god originated into the human species. Not the monkey species.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Just what "demonic style tactics" are you referring to?
Yes.
1. If what you say is true, then theists must be wild and out of control. Obviously, this is not the case.
2. I call non sequitor on your argument. The presence of a belief in God has nothing to do with restraining actions.
False analogy.
Theism is simply a belief in some kind of God-concept. That's it. What you described is the belief that a certain type of person needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. I fail to see how they are even remotely similar.
BTW, what's a Godwin?
Oh, and welcome to the forums!
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...how is it possible to NOT use our brains?
...WHAT!?!?!!?
What are you even talking about? What do monkeys have to do with anything? How is an understanding of God, and how God originated into the human species (whatever that even means) related to whether or not a god is true or false?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That response is actually quite funny to read. :biglaugh:
You have absolutely no choice but to rely on your brain for everything.
Not dumb but factual in every aspect.
That three pound lump of meat between your ears and the usage of it.... well, I'm afraid that your your totally stuck with it. No refunds.
No choice on that one.
Dan4reason
Facts not Faith
You act as if emotion and thought always have to be fighting each other. I say however that they often agree on many things. I have a feeling that drives me to seek truth, but this emotion is not the one that actually seeks truth or formulates my ideas and arguments. Thought and analysis are the ones that seek truth, emotion only encourages them.
Sometimes I feel like ignoring an opposing argument because by admitting I was wrong about it would make me lose face, however my intellectual and emotional conviction to seek truth overpowers it most of the time. I do admit there have been instances where these have failed.
I have noticed that you have never made any original arguments yourself. All you do is critique the arguments of others. You have ignored arguments that I have successfully made that are actually more to the point than the ones you are focusing on. I think that I have proven my point that argument can be made for the reason of convincing.
Gloone
Well-Known Member
Dood I rarely use my brain for anything I do just fine.
Gloone
Well-Known Member
My brain rarely functions it only operates when i tell it to.
Gloone
Well-Known Member
Demonic style tactics is what people use when they have a point to convey and they will use any means necessary to do it.
That's not possible. If your brain doesn't function, you wouldn't be alive. If your brain doesn't operate, your heart wouldn't pump, your muscles (and therefore you) wouldn't move, you wouldn't see, hear, or use any of your senses, etc.
In short, you'd be dead.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Gloone
Well-Known Member
It depends on the type of function.
The brain obviously is programmed for life that doesn't mean it is programmed for survival. That is something you program it too understand and you accumulate that information over time based on experience.
It depends on the type of function.
The brain obviously is programmed for life that doesn't mean it is programmed for survival. That is something you program it too understand and you accumulate that information over time based on experience.
And ALL of that experience and information is stored in the brain. You speak of programming the brain, but you use the brain to program it.
Even your very emotions are dependent on specific brain functions.
If the soul exists, the brain is where it would have to be located.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Perhaps you could give a more coherent explanation?