Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[mikkel_the_dane]

or maybe not.

Yeah, that might also be the case for you and I.

 

[YoursTrue]

As near as I can determine, the answer seems to be "they do not believe and behave as I do".

That seems to be the basis for declaring everyone that disagrees to be wrong without benefit of the need to demonstrate or provide explanation.

All I can say is that my questions don't get answered and my comments only receive responses from some sources that are consistent with that

If someone believes something then why not talk about it? Such as believing in God? talk about passive/aggressive look at the sniping jokes, hmm. For one thing. Many, MANY passive/aggressive nice little remarks here by those who accuse others of being passive-aggressive. Thank you. I appreciate the responses so much, really.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yeah, that might also be the case for you and I.

lol, perhaps as existing? or being right? which is it? back to passive/aggressive again. Let's analyze, shall we?

 

[Pogo]

I have to admit that I have seen positions defended by seemingly passive aggressive approaches from a very similar basis, but the technique of claiming the superiority of position while actively evading contact with others that have evidence, reasonable questions or valid counter arguments is a unique approach at the scope and scale demonstrated.

Personally, I see the practice unavoidably announce itself as a sign of a weakness of position. Apparently, that is one of those things that not everyone can perceive as is claimed elsewhere.

Not so oddly, based on this, I haven't seen the evidence and reasoned arguments to support and explain the claims of the OP.

I wonder and suspect that is as good as it is going to get.

It just reminds me of the debate style of Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort et. al. Which is just to declare victory and change the subject to a different strawman. In this case it seems to be: You don't have the spiritual discernment to understand, but if you did, you would know. The superiority facade is generally considered poor form in most Christian settings, but obviously not all.

what does that mean? And why would someone who claims to believe in God AND evolution at the same time keep his belief in God so hidden so no one can see why?

Do you wear anything under your skirt? Look it up.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

lol, perhaps as existing? or being right? which is it? back to passive/aggressive again. Let's analyze, shall we?

Well, I don't believe in right or wrong as such. But yes, I am passive/aggressive again. And so on what?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

In contrast to those who will not support their beliefs as to why they believe in God and evolution, right? After all, why should they?

You have refused to answer numerous questions mine routinely in the past and I don't follow you around repeating the same meaningless statement over and over.

If you understood or accepted science, perhaps then we would have some basis for discussion, but you don't seem to and give every indication that you don't want to, so there isn't anything to discuss. But I don't see those facts as deterring you from continually asking irrelevant questions that do not support your own claims or those of this thread and only seem to serve to attack me personally in some back-handed, obscure, personal way.

 

[YoursTrue]

It just reminds me of the debate style of Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort et. al. Which is just to declare victory and change the subject to a different strawman. In this case it seems to be: You don't have the spiritual discernment to understand, but if you did, you would know. The superiority facade is generally considered poor form in most Christian settings, but obviously not all.

Do you wear anything under your skirt? Look it up.

Keep pushing it, it's not getting you anywhere except with your cohorts who can laugh it up with you. Here. I don't want to say you are disgusting but --

 

[YoursTrue]

You have refused to answer numerous questions mine routinely in the past and I don't follow you around repeating the same meaningless statement over and over.

If you understood or accepted science, perhaps then we would have some basis for discussion, but you don't seem to and give every indication that you don't want to, so there isn't anything to discuss. But I don't see those facts as deterring you from continually asking irrelevant questions that do not support your own claims or those of this thread and only seem to serve to attack me personally in some back-handed, obscure, personal way.

You and your paramours want to say I don't understand the theory of evolution. But I do. It's something you cannot comprehend that I understand it. Does that mean I agree with it? Guess...another question is: does a person have to be a microbiologist to understand the concept?

 

[Eli G]

If someone believes something then why not talk about it? Such as believing in God? talk about passive/aggressive look at the sniping jokes, hmm. For one thing. Many, MANY passive/aggressive nice little remarks here by those who accuse others of being passive-aggressive. Thank you. I appreciate the responses so much, really.

You still don't realize that there are very few real people responding to the dialogues?

This place, as well as others on the internet, are just bot farms, where they are made to respond according to what they are programmed to do.

There is hardly anyone here who is really interested in any of the topics discussed. It's just a show.

Any real person who visits these places already has to be aware of that reality: he is going to be the test subject for the machines they are programming... very badly, by the way.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

If someone believes something then why not talk about it? Such as believing in God? talk about passive/aggressive look at the sniping jokes, hmm. For one thing. Many, MANY passive/aggressive nice little remarks here by those who accuse others of being passive-aggressive. Thank you. I appreciate the responses so much, really.

So, your interest isn't in discussion but about one upping and finding gottcha moments against someone that has thwarted you in the past resulting in a personal grievance with that person?

Is that the topic of this thread?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You still don't realize that there are very few real people responding to the dialogues?

This place, as well as others on the internet, are just bot farms, where they are made to respond according to what they are programmed to do.

There is hardly anyone here who is really interested in any of the topics discussed. It's just a show.

Any real person who visits these places already has to be aware of that reality: he is going to be the test subject for the machines they are programming... very badly, by the way.

Is this offered as support for the claims of your OP? Can you explain how this relates to demonstrating atheists believe in miracles? And further, can you tie this in to demonstrate what atheists accept in science are, in reality, miracles?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You and your paramours want to say I don't understand the theory of evolution. But I do. It's something you cannot comprehend that I understand it. Does that mean I agree with it? Guess...another question is: does a person have to be a microbiologist to understand the concept?

I haven't seen a demonstration of your understanding of the phenomenon or the theory. That is not difficult to comprehend from your own words on the matter.

What concept are you claiming microbiologists have the understanding of that doesn't require knowledge of microbiology for others to accept?

The reference doesn't make sense, since it seems only partially there.

 

[Eli G]

First, atheists would have to really explain the origin of life and the beauty and order of the universe with some explanation that can be called logically and truly "materialistic"...

Ah, no, wait a second... That explanation does not exist... Everything is a miracle!

1) Curtain goes up, complete chaos. Curtain goes down.

2) Curtain goes up, a beautiful world full of life appeared. Curtain goes down.

How is the play called? "The atheistic magical and miracolous act of Nature's appearance ".

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Is this offered as support for the claims of your OP? Can you explain how this relates to demonstrating atheists believe in miracles? And further, can you tie this in to demonstrate what atheists accept in science are, in reality, miracles?

Well, the OP doesn't even understand that it is not about atheists, but the complaint is in effect about philosophical naturalism.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Well, the OP doesn't even understand that it is not about atheists, but the complaint is in effect about philosophical naturalism.

I would agree, but given what I have seen, there is much more that is not understood and nothing that the reigning technique of the indirect, avoidance response does to provide confidence of a real understanding.

 

[Eli G]

These people love to read themselves. They have some literary complex.

 

[YoursTrue]

So, your interest isn't in discussion but about one upping and finding gottcha moments against someone that has thwarted you in the past resulting in a personal grievance with that person?

Is that the topic of this thread?

Nope. So do you want to answer in a thread that asks why you say you believe in God and more specifically?

 

[YoursTrue]

These people love to read themselves. They have some literary complex.

Lol I believe that.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

These people love to read themselves. They have some literary complex.

How does this negative commentary about other posters support your claims about atheists? The notion must be very subtle, so I require some help here.

 

[Eli G]

I'll answer you if you tell me what is the secret on being a "Staff Member" ... so I can put you on ignore with the rest of people I don't mind what they say.