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Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Friends #527 . @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine .
So, it is also one's perception in other words, right, please?
Did my friends mean the following?:
The 12 Universal Laws*
Or one subscribes to the following:

"universal law

logic
......

laws of nature

  • In law of nature
    …Forms: (1) a law is universal if it states that some conditions, so far as are known, invariably are found together with certain other conditions; and (2) a law is probabilistic if it affirms that, on the average, a stated fraction of cases displaying a given condition will display a…
britannica.com/topic/universal-law
Right?

Regards
________________
*The 12 Universal Laws - Wellismo
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
For some strange reason these characters think that bullying other forum members here is somehow beneficial to them.
Unless they feel some kind of perverse and sadistic morbidity when mistreating other forum members... what do they think they're doing?
What are nattering about now? No one has bullied anyone here. Corrections are not "bullying".
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Christianity is just one of many religions that exist in the world.

Anti-Christianity has nothing to do with atheism. When many people of different beliefs unite with atheists against Christianity, it is not a war against the belief in God, but a war against Jesus Christ.

We, Jehovah's witnesses, know very well that false religions will fall. That's not news to anyone. ;)
Okay, so you know that your religion will fail. Guess what? Everyone else already knew that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Friends #527 . @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine .
So, it is also one's perception in other words, right, please?
Did my friends mean the following?:
The 12 Universal Laws*
Or one subscribes to the following:

"universal law

logic
......

laws of nature

  • In law of nature
    …Forms: (1) a law is universal if it states that some conditions, so far as are known, invariably are found together with certain other conditions; and (2) a law is probabilistic if it affirms that, on the average, a stated fraction of cases displaying a given condition will display a…
britannica.com/topic/universal-law
Right?

Regards
________________
*The 12 Universal Laws - Wellismo
I am sorry, but that sadly just look like woo woo. Your source does not know what science is.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Friends #527 . @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine .
So, it is also one's perception in other words, right, please?
Did my friends mean the following?:
The 12 Universal Laws*
Or one subscribes to the following:

"universal law

logic
......

laws of nature

  • In law of nature
    …Forms: (1) a law is universal if it states that some conditions, so far as are known, invariably are found together with certain other conditions; and (2) a law is probabilistic if it affirms that, on the average, a stated fraction of cases displaying a given condition will display a…
https://www.
britannica.com/topic/universal-law
Right?

Regards
________________
*The 12 Universal Laws - Wellismo
I am sorry, but that sadly just look like woo woo. Your source does not know what science is.
So, I was correct that our friends @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine , had a wrong perception (of the so called) "Universal" Laws of Physics, they meant it but never mentioned it; they need to correct themselves, right, please?

Regards
 

McBell

Unbound
Friends #527 . @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine .
So, it is also one's perception in other words, right, please?
Did my friends mean the following?:
The 12 Universal Laws*
Or one subscribes to the following:

"universal law

logic
......

laws of nature

  • In law of nature
    …Forms: (1) a law is universal if it states that some conditions, so far as are known, invariably are found together with certain other conditions; and (2) a law is probabilistic if it affirms that, on the average, a stated fraction of cases displaying a given condition will display a…
https://www.
britannica.com/topic/universal-law
Right?

Regards
________________
*The 12 Universal Laws - Wellismo

So, I was correct that our friends @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine , had a wrong perception (of the so called) "Universal" Laws of Physics, they meant it but never mentioned it; they need to correct themselves, right, please?

Regards
You are all over the map.
Your presented source says nothing about the laws of nature or the laws of physics.

Your source is way way out in the left field science wise
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You are all over the map.
Your presented source says nothing about the laws of nature or the laws of physics.

Your source is way way out in the left field science wise
@paarsurrey
Has presented 2 sources in my view.
The first source Wellismo is pseudo-science.
The second source Encyclopaedia Brittanica did a better job in my view
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Friends #527 . @ChristineM , @Pogo , @YoursTrue ,@TLK Valentine .
So, it is also one's perception in other words, right, please?
Did my friends mean the following?:
The 12 Universal Laws*
Or one subscribes to the following:

"universal law

logic
......

laws of nature

  • In law of nature
    …Forms: (1) a law is universal if it states that some conditions, so far as are known, invariably are found together with certain other conditions; and (2) a law is probabilistic if it affirms that, on the average, a stated fraction of cases displaying a given condition will display a…
britannica.com/topic/universal-law
Right?

Regards
________________
*The 12 Universal Laws - Wellismo
No, this is just some new agey woo loosely adapted from some pre-scientific philosophy made to sound sciencey. :rolleyes:
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
No, this is just some new agey woo loosely adapted from some pre-scientific philosophy made to sound sciencey. :rolleyes:
Is it one's admission that one's "Universal" view was only limited to Physics while human life is diverse, other sources of human knowledge could and do have different concepts of Universal laws, why deny them, right, please??

Regards
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Is it one's admission that one's "Universal" view was only limited to Physics while human life is diverse, other sources of human knowledge could and do have different concepts of Universal laws, why deny them, right, please??

Regards
If you are going to use terms from the sciences you need to be scientific. Your source is trying to steal unmerited credibility.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is it one's admission that one's "Universal" view was only limited to Physics while human life is diverse, other sources of human knowledge could and do have different concepts of Universal laws, why deny them, right, please??

Regards
Because knowledge according to my understanding is demonstrable. God is not demonstrable in the sense it is believed in in the Ahmadiyya Muslim religion, and neither is divine one-ness in my view (just to give you one example from your gish gallop list)

If you think I'm wrong please demonstrate the Ahmadiyya Muslim God exists.
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I love when they knock on my door.
I say to them , come let me teach you your own way.

You interprete something that you don't understand in the first place.

I have never met any Jehovah's witness who understands Koine Greek.
Will you change that?
I personally do not know anyone who understands koine Greek. Do you?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Is it one's admission that one's "Universal" view was only limited to Physics while human life is diverse, other sources of human knowledge could and do have different concepts of Universal laws, why deny them, right, please??

Regards
None of your 12 are universal by the definition you gave from Britannica which generally relates to scientific laws which are not really laws anyway in that they are just descriptions of commonly occuring patterns that are applicable in most but not all cases. :)
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I personally do not know anyone who understands koine Greek. Do you?
@Dimi95's comment was in English, not Greek, I would read it as Yes he speaks koine Greek and offers to teach it to Jehovah's witnesses when he meets them. He agrees with you that he knows no Jehovah's Witnesses that understand the original language of the NT only later translations and interpretations.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The science of genetics is the basis for one of the planks of the theory, namely, the existence of heritability and genetic variation. The other is natural selection.
So far it seems that monkeys remain monkeys, finches remain finches, and the like. (Humans remain humans...)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@Dimi95's comment was in English, not Greek, I would read it as Yes he speaks koine Greek and offers to teach it to Jehovah's witnesses when he meets them. He agrees with you that he knows no Jehovah's Witnesses that understand the original language of the NT only later translations and interpretations.
I never said what you're saying. Do you understand koine Greek?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I love when they knock on my door.
I say to them , come let me teach you your own way.

You interprete something that you don't understand in the first place.

I have never met any Jehovah's witness who understands Koine Greek.
Will you change that?
Another question -- based on your comment: what is it that your apparent understanding of koine Greek expresses the understanding of the future of religion?
 
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