Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[Dimi95]

Nobody ignores evidence, man.
Who do you think you're talking to? You don't know me.
I opened this thread, so ... I don't even understand what are you trying to say.

First, you must learn one very basic thing: SCIENCES is not ATHEISM.
If you don't know that, you are ignoring a lot of things.

But you are adressing Evolution , which is very different from adressing Atheism.

 

[Eli G]

Evolution is not a science and there are not "sciences of evolution" so if you are so naive that you really thought that to be true, just sit and think better.

This topic is about atheists thinking that the universe appears out of nothing: that is more miraculous than thinking that a Creator exists.

Now that you are on the right point, anything to add about the topic?

 

[danieldemol]

Still wondering why you're an atheist but -- our dear moderator here is not. And others unlike yourself, keep their religious views or atheistic views hidden. Any idea?

Although I do not hide my views, I do have an idea for why others may in this thread - they are simply not relevant to the OP's inability to demonstrate their claim in my view.

 

[Dimi95]

Evolution is not a science and there are not "sciences of evolution"

Biology is
Nothing in Biology makes sense to me except in the light of Evolution.

so if you are so naive that you really thought that to be true, just sit and think better.

Already passed that

This topic is about atheists thinking that the universe appears out of nothing: that is more miraculous than thinking that a Creator exists.

So now you are adressing Abiogenesis
You don't see the error in 'out of nothing' do you?

Do you consider Earth to be nothing?

Now that you are on the right point, anything to add about the topic?

Nothing more , thank you.

 

[Eli G]

It is a relationship that you have only created psychologically. There is no real relationship between one and the other. No postulate of genetics supports the theory of evolution. Evolutionists have created a fictitious relationship that they preach as a form of indoctrination.

There is no scientific chair in any University called the study of the evolution of species or dedicated specifically to that.

 

[YoursTrue]

But what????

Do these people want others to stay silent when they disagree with something?

But what do they think they are? The priests of the world?

"Well educated", "understand how science works", REALLLY?????

Who are you, guy? Somebody's slave?

They are the sooth-sayers.

 

[F1fan]

Nobody ignores evidence, man.

You might be aware of the evidence, but you refuse to understand what it describes of reality. The creationist arrogance to reject the consensus of all experts in science is shameful in the 21st century. No one with internet access should be a creationist because the knowledge is avalable.

Who do you think you're talking to? You don't know me.

We read your posts, and we understand what you are saying. Unless you aren't honest in what you post we understand a lot about you.

Evolution is not a science

It is a theory in biology that is cross verified by other sciences.

 

[YoursTrue]

So now you are adressing Abiogenesis

I think the post you are referring to does not speak of abiogenesis. So not sure where you're getting that idea from. Maybe he did, but I don't see it. The making of the universe is not abiogenesis.

 

[Dimi95]

It is a relationship that you have only created psychologically.

First you say you don't know me , then in the next post you want to be my psychologist.

There is no real relationship between one and the other. No postulate of genetics supports the theory of evolution.

Really?

Genetic drift promotes and recombination hinders speciation on holey fitness landscapes - PMC

Dobzhansky and Muller proposed a general mechanism through which microevolution, the substitution of alleles within populations, can cause the evolution of reproductive isolation between populations and, therefore, macroevolution. As allopatric ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Evolutionists have created a fictitious relationship that they preach as a form of indoctrination.

I have never seen any form of preaching.
If you consider verifiable evidence as form of preaching , then i don't have a problem with it.

There is no scientific chair in any University called the study of the evolution of species or dedicated specifically to that.

Have you read Darwin's theory and Orign of Species?
Do you even understand the progress that has been made from then to present time?

 

[YoursTrue]

It must be some kind of bad indoctrination or whatever: confusing thematic discussions with personal attacks.

In fact, at no time have I believed that the terrible and horrible robotic programming that spreads so much hatred was solely "atheist"... It is evident that many of those hateful robots have been programmed by religious people full of the same hatred... or worse.

The good news is that the badder the world gets, the closer we are to its end, and the beginning of a new one.

Ah, yes.

 

[danieldemol]

I like 'the last post is the winner' thread. It has many different post daily from A to Z..
Unlike this one that regurgitates daily.

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But as my uncle always told me, "To each his own"

The result is that Christianity is collapsing in the west where these debates are being held as people are being trained to recognise ad-hominem and distinguish reliable evidence from mere claims in my view.

Why does it matter if a tiny minority of willfully ignorant apologists remain deluded?

 

[Eli G]

Christianity is just one of many religions that exist in the world.

Anti-Christianity has nothing to do with atheism. When many people of different beliefs unite with atheists against Christianity, it is not a war against the belief in God, but a war against Jesus Christ.

We, Jehovah's witnesses, know very well that false religions will fall. That's not news to anyone.

 

[YoursTrue]

Don't let the hate that these people spread affect you. One of their Machiavellian tactics is to try to bother the conscience of believers. It's an evil tactic that only works if you let it.

Learn to ignore people who try to hurt you, and who will try to make you believe that you are the bad one. Use your ignore list. Some people are just very sick mentally.

Actually these conversations have helped me a lot. Basically about the attitude of those who are against creation.

 

[danieldemol]

Christianity is just one of many religions that exist in the world.

Anti-Christianity has nothing to do with atheism. When many people of different beliefs unite with atheists against Christianity, it is not a war against the belief in God, but a war against Jesus Christ.

We, Jehovah's witnesses, know very well that false religions will fall. That's not news to anyone.

Why do you describe someone who is merely attempting to debate you as warring? Sounds like an ad-hominem to me.

 

[Dimi95]

We, Jehovah's witnesses, know very well that false religions will fall. That's not news to anyone.

I love when they knock on my door.
I say to them , come let me teach you your own way.

You interprete something that you don't understand in the first place.

I have never met any Jehovah's witness who understands Koine Greek.
Will you change that?

 

[Eli G]

My ears are deaf to conflicting messages...

Me no entender.

 

[danieldemol]

My ears are deaf to conflicting messages...

Me no entender.

Oh well, there are those who consider alternative viewpoints to discover which one is true and those who just thrust their fingers into their ears and hope what they already think they know is right I guess.

But I will say this, talking without listening does not encourage others to listen to what you have to say.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Your a profit.

LOL. You forgot to misspell one of those words.

I like 'the last post is the winner' thread. It has many different post daily from A to Z.. Unlike this one that regurgitates daily.

I like this thread better. I don't need quality replies from the creationists. I get those from the critical thinkers. The words of the creationists are just springboards, and it isn't even necessary that they reply to comments addressed to them. The value for me is in seeing the distribution of types in and outside of religion to help better understand what having a god belief and religion does, atheistic humanists serving as controls and theists ranging from polytheists to theistic humanists to fundamentalists and creationists the assorted types of theists to contrast them with.

I also like constructing arguments, identifying fallacies, and practicing writing skills, which these threads facilitate.

For some strange reason these characters think that bullying other forum members here is somehow beneficial to them.

You feel bullied? You bully others more than they bully you, but I don't feel bullied by you. You're doing it now.

Do these people want others to stay silent when they disagree with something?

It doesn't matter either way to me whether you express your dissent or not when you disagree with me or anybody else.

what do they think they are? The priests of the world?

No, that's you. We're the scientists and teachers.

Evolutionists have created a fictitious relationship that they preach as a form of indoctrination.

Again, that's you. You preach, which is indoctrination through repetition of unsupported claims. We teach. You're faith based. We're evidence and reason based.

"Well educated", "understand how science works", REALLLY????? Who are you, guy? Somebody's slave?

He's a well-educated skeptic. Slave? No, he's liberated himself from the shackles of religion.

Who do you think you're talking to? You don't know me.

Sure we do. We don't know what you look like, where you live, what you like to eat or wear, but we know what and how you think about gods, science, and atheists.

Evolution is not a science

You're wrong there.

Genetics is also a science, as is paleontology. They're all divisions of biology, as are medicine and entomology. Medicine comprises multiple other sciences like anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, medical microbiology, pharmacology, and behavioral sciences.

Here. Enjoy some evolutionary science:

No postulate of genetics supports the theory of evolution.

The science of genetics is the basis for one of the planks of the theory, namely, the existence of heritability and genetic variation. The other is natural selection.

There is no scientific chair in any University dedicated to the study of the evolution of species.

There are entire departments in universities dedicated to that each with a chairperson.

You, guys, are so gullible and easy to manipulate by those indoctrinators.

Yet you've manipulated nobody. Nobody's budged at all despite your best efforts at indoctrinating them. How do you account for that given our alleged gullibility?

Me no entender.

Something you wrote earlier made me think that Spanish was your first language. Maybe that's good Spanish there. I'd have written (Yo) no entiendo.

 

[McBell]

I think so. Good thing we're on a message board of sorts. Nevertheless, the questions remain. Such as: if a person is NOT an atheist but believes in the validity of the theory of evolution, why is he not an atheist? Let me guess -- because that's his choice? Even though he claims to know so much about science, etc. and the theory of evolution and believes it.

Why do you keep repeating this false dichotomy as an appeal to incredulity like it is some sort of "ace in the hole" trump card?

 

[Eli G]

Scientists and teachers here?????
You're really funny.