Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[YoursTrue]

Wouldn't an expression of courage be better witness than prattle and games?

You mean like explaining why you are not an atheist?

 

[Pogo]

I think so. Good thing we're on a message board of sorts. Nevertheless, the questions remain. Such as: if a person is NOT an atheist but believes in the validity of the theory of evolution, why is he not an atheist? Let me guess -- because that's his choice? Even though he claims to know so much about science, etc. and the theory of evolution and believes it.

Because neither atheism nor belief in a god has anything to do with the scientific theory of evolution only with the strawman that many ignorant Christians dogmatically parrot no matter how many times they are corrected.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I think so. Good thing we're on a message board of sorts. Nevertheless, the questions remain. Such as: if a person is NOT an atheist but believes in the validity of the theory of evolution, why is he not an atheist? Let me guess -- because that's his choice? Even though he claims to know so much about science, etc. and the theory of evolution and believes it.

Why are you so obsessed with me?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You mean like explaining why you are not an atheist?

Why are you so obsessed with me?

 

[YoursTrue]

I accept that you are Christian. Even despite what I read from you on these threads.

Why is it that you seem so obsessed with me?

I find your answers interesting, and I would like for you to finally say why you say you are a Christian and/or believe in God. Maybe I'll stop asking you because so far with all the posts, I don't believe I've seen you answer.

 

[ChristineM]

Friend @ChristineM
So it is also one's perception in "other" words, please, right?

Regards

I will repeat for the hard of understand...

I am sure you can read and understand my post, it is not perception when validated multiple times

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I find your answers interesting, and I would like for you to finally say why you say you are a Christian and/or believe in God. Maybe I'll stop asking you because so far with all the posts, I don't believe I've seen you answer.

Why are you so obsessed with me?

 

[YoursTrue]

In my country of origin there is a saying that says: "mejor solo que mal acompañado", i.e. "Better alone than in bad company."

Internet forums are no longer useful... they are full of useless automatons that all they do is spread hatred among the few of us who participate with the interest of dialogue with others. It is no surprise that with each passing day society goes from bad to worse.

It's good that I am a Jehovah's Witness. We are not part of this world that will soon end.

good question to ask -- how some 'believers' here might think about that. But then they might say they're being hounded...

 

[Eli G]

... if a person is NOT an atheist but believes in the validity of the theory of evolution, why is he not an atheist? Let me guess -- because that's his choice? Even though he claims to know so much about science, etc. and the theory of evolution and believes it.

That's a legitimate question: a believer who has given in to the indoctrination of evolutionary theory is a believer who has allowed himself to be confused by atheists, PERIOD.

Jesus Christ would not have even remotely accepted the idea that humans were evolved apes. He mentioned the first couple created directly by God as two real people: husband and wife (Matt. 19:4-6).

Furthermore, the purpose of humanity's existence and the reason we humans die as long as we continue to live in the system of things we are living in, is a direct consequence of what happened in Eden.

Likewise, denying the biblical story about the evil character who contributed to the desolation of humanity by making our first human parents betray their heavenly Father, is to ignore the main cause why this world has gone from bad to worse since then. That evil spirit does not care about the well-being of human beings; After he turned them away from God, he has only confused them more and more about what is true and what is right.

 

[Pogo]

there is no gotcha. Science changes its information upon occasion, that is true. And what was taken as true years ago is not necessarily true today. (Or tomorrow.)

You know what hasn't changed since 1960? Creationist arguments. Sad.

 

[YoursTrue]

Why are you so obsessed with me?

I'm not, but rather I find you fascinating. Since you apparently and obviously do not want to answer why you believe in God and are NOT an atheist, that's how you deal with that.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You know what hasn't changed since 1960? Creationist arguments. Sad.

When their arguments have been shown to be flawed and the understanding of science they claim to have unravels, the next best thing seems to be to persecute others.

 

[YoursTrue]

That's a legitimate question: a believer who has given in to the indoctrination of evolutionary theory is a believer who has allowed himself to be confused by atheists, PERIOD.

Jesus Christ would not have even remotely accepted the idea that humans were evolved apes. He mentioned the first couple created directly by God as two real people: husband and wife (Matt. 19:4-6).

Furthermore, the purpose of humanity's existence and the reason we humans die as long as we continue to live in the system of things we are living in, is a direct consequence of what happened in Eden.

Likewise, denying the biblical story about the evil character who contributed to the desolation of humanity by making our first human parents betray their heavenly Father, is to ignore the main cause why this world has gone from bad to worse since then. That evil spirit does not care about the well-being of human beings; After he turned them away from God, he has only confused them more and more about what is true and what is right.

Indeed. People that I have never met on or off some boards are telling ME we're living in disastrous times, never expected. Yes, Lord, let your kingdom come...

 

[Pogo]

That's a legitimate question: a believer who has given in to the indoctrination of evolutionary theory is a believer who has allowed himself to be confused by atheists, PERIOD.

Jesus Christ would not have even remotely accepted the idea that humans were evolved apes. He mentioned the first couple created directly by God as two real people: husband and wife (Matt. 19:4-6).

Furthermore, the purpose of humanity's existence and the reason we humans die as long as we continue to live in the system of things we are living in, is a direct consequence of what happened in Eden.

Likewise, denying the biblical story about the evil character who contributed to the desolation of humanity by making our first human parents betray their heavenly Father, is to ignore the main cause why this world has gone from bad to worse since then. That evil spirit does not care about the well-being of human beings; After he turned them away from God, he has only confused them more and more about what is true and what is right.

Ah the no true Christian Fallacy again.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm not, but rather I find you fascinating. Since you apparently and obviously do not want to answer why you believe in God and are NOT an atheist, that's how you deal with that.

Why are you so obsessed with me? Answer the question. You follow me around. I seem to have kept you coming back for over a year across dozens of threads and 100's of posts. It seems like you have given me some sort of power over you.

 

[Pogo]

That's a legitimate question: a believer who has given in to the indoctrination of evolutionary theory is a believer who has allowed himself to be confused by atheists, PERIOD.

Jesus Christ would not have even remotely accepted the idea that humans were evolved apes. He mentioned the first couple created directly by God as two real people: husband and wife (Matt. 19:4-6).

Furthermore, the purpose of humanity's existence and the reason we humans die as long as we continue to live in the system of things we are living in, is a direct consequence of what happened in Eden.

Likewise, denying the biblical story about the evil character who contributed to the desolation of humanity by making our first human parents betray their heavenly Father, is to ignore the main cause why this world has gone from bad to worse since then. That evil spirit does not care about the well-being of human beings; After he turned them away from God, he has only confused them more and more about what is true and what is right.

Here I will repeat this for you since it hasn't gotten through yet.

Because neither atheism nor belief in a god has anything to do with the scientific theory of evolution only with the strawman that many ignorant Christians dogmatically parrot no matter how many times they are corrected.

 

[YoursTrue]

When their arguments have been shown to be flawed and the understanding of science they claim to have unravels, the next best thing seems to be to persecute others.

hardly have you understood the so-called arguments. No obsession here. Just reality and answering a comment you made, friend. If you did understand the discussion, frankly-- you'd say why you claim to believe in God and evolution. At this point, since you have made my point for me, I do believe the discussion is over for the most part. Maybe not forever...thank you.

 

[YoursTrue]

Why are you so obsessed with me? Answer the question. You follow me around. I seem to have kept you coming back for over a year across dozens of threads and 100's of posts. It seems like you have given me some sort of power over you.

I wasn't going to laugh, but I did. At this point you're correct -- although I answered your question about the alleles, there's really nothing else to say. Thank you. Have a good one...

 

[YoursTrue]

Here I will repeat this for you since it hasn't gotten through yet.

Because neither atheism nor belief in a god has anything to do with the scientific theory of evolution only with the strawman that many ignorant Christians dogmatically parrot no matter how many times they are corrected.

For me that is not the point. Although I disagree with the entire theory as it technically stands, I do wonder yet why some say they believe in God AND evolution. Little offering on the God side from those who claim to believe in both, huh? Except to tell me how little I know about science.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

hardly have you understood the so-called arguments.

I understand what has been going on here very well.

No obsession here.

I think it is. I don't know what else you would call it. I asked questions. You refused to answer and then started following me around doing all those things that you claim you don't like being done to you.

Just reality and answering a comment you made, friend.

I do not consider you a friend. No friend I have has done what you do. No person with good intention has done what you do.

If you did understand the discussion, frankly-- you'd say why you claim to believe in God and evolution. At this point, since you have made my point for me, I do believe the discussion is over for the most part. Maybe not forever...thank you.

You claim to believe in God, yet you do what you are doing? How do you reconcile that? Your actions long ago made my point for me and they continue to.

Whatever this is, it is not discussion and I don't think it is over for you. You don't harass someone for over a year and then walk away when you haven't succeeded.

But I would like the harassment to stop.