Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[Subduction Zone]

I guess we'll find out sometime.

Meanwhile... you know that even if I can't blacklist you, I can still ignore you, right?

Most of your answers are personal, like those of the bots, and they are really boring.

You will not discuss the facts. You were the one that made it personal from the very beginning. So you really cannot complain about others having to make it personal in response.

Do you want to know how you can make it so that it is not personal? Discuss the science and only the science.

 

[Subduction Zone]

abuse the ignore list? You're kidding...lol...yes, I really hope to be back later whether I answer you and yours barbs or not. Have a nice day!

Yes, to pretend to use a tool is abusing it. If you have someone on ignore it is because you do not want to read their posts. The OP claims to have put everyone that refutes his nonsense on ignore and yet he knows what they post about him. That means his "list" is just a facade so he can pretend that the is not preaching.

 

[F1fan]

In other words, is it that you take everything everyone says as truth, is that right?

Not religious claimants. But we can trust scientists since they follow and apply a high standard for determining what is true about reality. They have an excellent reputation, and that means something to we lay people.

If so, why do you believe some things and not others? I hope you can explain.

That's why credibility and reasoning skill is so important. Many believers have an automatic credibility problem in religious debates since they have inevitably took everything that pastors, churches, and other believers as true, and never subjected thoe claims to critical thought. Truth must conform to fact and reason, and the supernatiral ideas of religions do not. Critical thinkers expose religious claims as false, and doubtful. Religious claimants fail over and ver again to rebut the criticisms.

If you want credibility in debate you have to earn it. There are many religious members who get science right, and they have exceptional credibilty. Creationists do not, as they have contempt for science, facts, reason, and truth. It's your reputation to ruin by opting for the non-factual side of science.

 

[Pogo]

I guess we'll find out sometime.

Meanwhile... you know that even if I can't blacklist you, I can still ignore you, right?

Most of your answers are personal, like those of the bots, and they are really boring.

It's ridiculous. 35 comments about how the ignore list works... :facepalm @Eli G

Yup you are being ridiculous.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

In other words, is it that you take everything everyone says as truth, is that right? If so, why do you believe some things and not others? I hope you can explain.

No, I don't believe in true or false in the standard sense.
As for believing, well, if it makes sense and appears to work, then I believe in it as me.

 

[McBell]

So what's your position about God or atheism?

nothingarian (n.)
"one who has no particular belief," especially in religious matters, 1789, from nothing + ending from unitarian, etc.
nothingarian | Etymology of nothingarian by etymonline

Want to talk about that?

What does it have to do with the thread?

It is clear you don't understand about the 'ignore' idea,

Why don't you educate me on the ignore idea?

and of course, why bother talking about what YOU believe about God, miracles, or atheism as if everything is simiply a result of "nature" or -- natural occurrences, either way. Please.

You get mighty upset when someone does not fit nicely in the little boxes you put them in.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I guess we'll find out sometime.

I believe I know who my Savior is and I've no knowledge He needs to rely on the means I've seen from you here. I can't say that He isn't your Savior too, but you sure have a funny way of witnessing for him. It does not appear to be biblical and seems more personal. Myself, I find it sad.

Meanwhile... you know that even if I can't blacklist you, I can still ignore you, right?

You can do whatever you want, but I don't see you ignoring me. I don't think you can. You haven't so far.

Most of your answers are personal, like those of the bots, and they are really boring.

Straw man arguments and making disparaging remarks to others seems to be about the best you have. In my view, it seems childish and unbecoming of someone with the spiritual claims you make. I can't imagine how you came to a position like that.

No. I don't think you find this boring. I think you are thrilled at the attention.

You take care. Have a wonderful day.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Exactly! And that is why I wonder how it is that some (including the Pope, who might then say, well, things "evolve," and the Bible is packed full of myths and cannot be taken as written) say they are Christian, go to church, make the sign of the cross and then believe that the Bible is chock full of fantasies, stories including miracles that can't be believed.

Does it ever occur to you how much of the Bible the position you have taken rejects?

You appear to have set YOURSELF up as the judge of who is an isn't Christian.

Are you sure it isn't just science that you don't understand?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Why don't the ones here explain why they claim to believe in God, go to church or another house type of worship, yet go on to say they believe the Bible is a book replete with myths and of course, cannot possibly believe the accounts in the Bible, and -- they, like some others here -- keep their ideas hidden or -- in a way -- they ignore those questions, hmm? If you can't answer, why don't you ask them because I have asked many times...no answer --- maybe they "ignore" that but not other questions or barbs? What do you think?

I accept that you are Christian. Even despite what I read from you on these threads.

Why is it that you seem so obsessed with me?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Discussion never seemed to be his goal here. All I have ever seen him do is preach, which is against the rules. Whenever anyone begins to refute him he only claims to have put them on his odd ignore list where he still reads every post. I almost wonder if one can take away the ability to use the ignore list if one abuses its existence. It has a purpose. One should not be able to abuse it.

The "ignore" feature, applied the way that has been observed, makes its use meaningless anyway. I find it rather ridiculous. I think is just another means to dig at others by continually claiming individuals are on an "ignore" list.

It has nothing to do with supporting a claim or addressing others.

 

[Eli G]

...Straw man arguments and making disparaging remarks to others seems to be about the best you have. In my view, it seems childish and unbecoming of someone with the spiritual claims you make. I can't imagine how you came to a position like that. ...

Yeah, right?

The difference is that bots have not spirituallity at all so, it's useless attempt a dialog with any of them.

And yes, I'll ignore you since this moment. You're starting to sound like those. Bye.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yeah, right?

The difference is that bots have not espirituallity at all so, it's useless attempt a dialog with any of them.

And yes, I'll ignore you since this moment. You're starting sounding like those. Bye.

I just wish that you would stop all the nonsense and discuss the topics and claims of the threads you make. Can you do that or is this all that you have?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

The "ignore" feature, applied the way that has been observed, makes its use meaningless anyway. I find it rather ridiculous. I think is just another means to dig at others by continually claiming individuals are on an "ignore" list.

It has nothing to do with supporting a claim or addressing others.

I use ignore for 3 reasons. So people ask me to put them on ignore so I don't answer them. Some I put ignore, becuase they put me on ignore.
And some I put on ignore because they make me angry and don't have the energy to stay nice.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I use ignore for 3 reasons. So people ask me to put them on ignore so I don't answer them. Some I put ignore, becuase they put me on ignore.
And some I put on ignore because they make me angry and don't have the energy to stay nice.

I'm not saying it is useless. Just the way I'm seeing it used as it is proclaimed, renders it meaningless.

 

[Eli G]

In my country of origin there is a saying that says: "mejor solo que mal acompañado", i.e. "Better alone than in bad company."

Internet forums are no longer useful... they are full of useless automatons that all they do is spread hatred among the few of us who participate with the interest of dialogue with others. It is no surprise that with each passing day society goes from bad to worse.

It's good that I am a Jehovah's Witness. We are not part of this world that will soon end.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

In my country of origin there is a saying that says: "mejor solo que mal acompañado", i.e. "Better alone than in bad company."

Internet forums are no longer useful... they are full of useless automatons that all they do is spread hatred among the few of us who participate with the interest of dialogue with others. It is no surprise that with each passing day society goes from bad to worse.

It's good that I am a Jehovah's Witness. We are not part of this world that will soon end.

Wouldn't an expression of courage be better witness than prattle and games?

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, right?

The difference is that bots have not spirituallity at all so, it's useless attempt a dialog with any of them.

And yes, I'll ignore you since this moment. You're starting to sound like those. Bye.

When you don't have an argument, you can always attempt to dehumanize your opponent, a strategy that seems all too common these days.

 

[Eli G]

Bots don't care about being ignored... but it fascinates me how, curiously, the ones who program them don't seem to care either. Did someone talk about "dehumanization"?

Society is sick because of people like they, who spread hatred and bad treatment between people. For that they use robots that they program to insult.

I wonder if they can program a robot to feel shame; It is easier for them to be able to demonstrate it one day than for those who program them to demonstrate it. Sometimes even animals are more affectionate than some people.

Isn't it true that God has to sweep away the rubbish of this world? Too much has accumulated.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said:
And science is still in the making, right, please?

The universal laws are pretty much fixed, thats how you live your life, that's how you posted your message, they laws are laws, not experiments

" fixed "
Who fixed them, please?

Regards

 

[TLK Valentine]

paarsurrey said:
And science is still in the making, right, please?

" fixed "
Who fixed them, please?

Regards

Ask the one who broke them in the first place.