Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[McBell]

Life came form life.

So what life did your "ver powerful and wise Supreme Being who share life with his creatures" Post #376 come from?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I don't believe I intimated anything in the past about allele frequencies. If you want to keep saying that because I don't believe genetic similarities or changes in populations equate to darwinian type evolution (natural selection and survival of the fittest) that's up to you.

You keep doing things that indicate that you don't understand the theory and that you do them at all is also indication that you don't understand the theory.

Your inclusion of "(natural selection and survival of the fittest)" is just that sort of indicator. Survival of the fittest is a crude and outdated term for natural selection. There is no reason to post both and not as if they represented different concepts that were required to be together. The latter is just a bad definition of the former.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I am not the OP but I do believe it is outstanding in many respects that so much information can be packed into one or two cells. From which bodies grow. If you think you can explain that scientifically, please do so.

Explain where this information, packaging and presence represents claims of the OP that it constitutes a miracle and that it is not just "wow, that is so amazing and since I don't understand, it must be a miracle"?

Please recall that it is your contention and that of the OP you support that these natural phenomena are miracles, so I don't have to explain things to you. You have to explain them to me.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Here's part of what I am saying: the Bible says many things. Science (not all of it) does not necessarily support what the Bible says in many respects. So when you say theists accept the natural process of evolution it makes me wonder.

You and anyone else is free to wonder. I'm free to wonder and I wonder about many things. Like how people can claim one thing and behave completely against the type they claim.

What is there to wonder about recognizing that as humans we don't really understand the Bible. Are you claiming that you fully and completely, with all-knowing knowledge understand the Bible as if you were the inspiration for it?

Many do not believe the timetable from Adam on to now.

Then why do you wonder that others have different interpretations or recognize that human interpretation is incomplete? Which is more important? Attempting to really understand the Bible or to basically replace it with a particular ideology and call that the truth?

They do not believe the historical accuracy of the Bible. So the question is, why does a theist believe in God especially if he goes to church or synagogue but yet believes in the process of evolution?

The real question is why do you think that one interpretation is the interpretation? What is your evidence that supports this view? Why do you think that people have all these abilities and senses if you think we weren't supposed to use them to learn? Why do you think that humans have a choice and the seemingly demand that they really don't?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Oh, Lord!!!!

Now I know why I still keep coming back. They need a savior here.

I don't think that you are a savior or that is the reason you keep coming back.

 

[YoursTrue]

You and anyone else is free to wonder. I'm free to wonder and I wonder about many things. Like how people can claim one thing and behave completely against the type they claim.

Exactly! And that is why I wonder how it is that some (including the Pope, who might then say, well, things "evolve," and the Bible is packed full of myths and cannot be taken as written) say they are Christian, go to church, make the sign of the cross and then believe that the Bible is chock full of fantasies, stories including miracles that can't be believed.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Exactly! And that is why I wonder how it is that some (including the Pope, who might then say, well, things "evolve," and the Bible is packed full of myths and cannot be taken as written) say they are Christian, go to church, make the sign of the cross and then believe that the Bible is chock full of fantasies, stories including miracles that can't be believed.

Because as far as I can tell they believe differently than other Christians. I wonder how come you don't understand that?

 

[Eli G]

I don't think that you are a savior or that is the reason you keep coming back.

I guess we'll find out sometime.

Meanwhile... you know that even if I can't blacklist you, I can still ignore you, right?

Most of your answers are personal, like those of the bots, and they are really boring.

 

[McBell]

Meanwhile... you know that even if I can't blacklist you, I can still ignore you, right?

You don't even ignore the members you have on ignore....

 

[YoursTrue]

You don't even ignore the members you have on ignore....

So what's your position about God or atheism? Want to talk about that? It is clear you don't understand about the 'ignore' idea, and of course, why bother talking about what YOU believe about God, miracles, or atheism as if everything is simiply a result of "nature" or -- natural occurrences, either way. Please.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you now have material for your next laboratory experiment.

Have you put the rabbit on your ignore list? How did that work out?

 

[Subduction Zone]

In contrast to those who will not support their beliefs as to why they believe in God and evolution, right? After all, why should they?

I see that you are talking about yourself here.

 

[YoursTrue]

Because as far as I can tell they believe differently than other Christians. I wonder how come you don't understand that?

Why don't the ones here explain why they claim to believe in God, go to church or another house type of worship, yet go on to say they believe the Bible is a book replete with myths and of course, cannot possibly believe the accounts in the Bible, and -- they, like some others here -- keep their ideas hidden or -- in a way -- they ignore those questions, hmm? If you can't answer, why don't you ask them because I have asked many times...no answer --- maybe they "ignore" that but not other questions or barbs? What do you think?

 

[YoursTrue]

Have you put the rabbit on your ignore list? How did that work out?

Still wondering why you're an atheist but -- our dear moderator here is not. And others unlike yourself, keep their religious views or atheistic views hidden. Any idea?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Why don't the ones here explain why they claim to believe in God, go to church or another house type of worship, yet go on to say they believe the Bible is a book replete with myths and of course, cannot possibly believe the accounts in the Bible, and -- they, like some others here -- keep their ideas hidden or -- in a way -- they ignore those questions, hmm? If you can't answer, why don't you ask them because I have asked many times...no answer --- maybe they "ignore" that but not other questions or barbs? What do you think?

I think it is not really my job to judge other people in that sense. Is it your job?

 

[YoursTrue]

I see that you are talking about yourself here.

At least I'm not a reflection of you right now. And no, like some other things, you got that wrong. Bye, and have a nice day, I'm not ignoring you OR anyone else I care not to sometimes even IF I have them on my ignore list. Take care.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So, your interest isn't in discussion but about one upping and finding gottcha moments against someone that has thwarted you in the past resulting in a personal grievance with that person?

Is that the topic of this thread?

Discussion never seemed to be his goal here. All I have ever seen him do is preach, which is against the rules. Whenever anyone begins to refute him he only claims to have put them on his odd ignore list where he still reads every post. I almost wonder if one can take away the ability to use the ignore list if one abuses its existence. It has a purpose. One should not be able to abuse it.

 

[YoursTrue]

I think it is not really my job to judge other people in that sense. Is it your job?

In other words, is it that you take everything everyone says as truth, is that right? If so, why do you believe some things and not others? I hope you can explain.

 

[Subduction Zone]

At least I'm not a reflection of you right now. And no, like some other things, you got that wrong. Bye, and have a nice day, I'm not ignoring you OR anyone else I care not to sometimes even IF I have them on my ignore list. Take care.

"At least"? No, you are quite the opposite of me. I want to learn. You only appear to want to believe. You know that you are wrong and that irritates the heck out of you.

A person who has a strong faith would not be afraid of learning. The ostrich defense is for the weak in faith. The OP appears to have the most fragile of believes ever.

 

[YoursTrue]

Discussion never seemed to be his goal here. All I have ever seen him do is preach, which is against the rules. Whenever anyone begins to refute him he only claims to have put them on his odd ignore list where he still reads every post. I almost wonder if one can take away the ability to use the ignore list if one abuses its existence. It has a purpose. One should not be able to abuse it.

abuse the ignore list? You're kidding...lol...yes, I really hope to be back later whether I answer you and yours barbs or not. Have a nice day!