It also depends upon a person's state of mind and thinking, athiests can not render athiestic tendencies/urgers/opinions as the ONLY intelligent opinions or the only intellectually stimulating estimates, since people who believe in a God are widely dispersed between, a farmer to a PHd, Doctor, engineer, lawyer etc and relating athiesm to intelligence is just a means to claim superiorty over the rest ,about something that they don't even want to know about, and yet attempt to apply their thoughts at in order to explain it.(i.e lack of God)
Who said anythiing about making claims of higher intelligence or superiority? Yes, many intelligent people have believed in God. So? This is irrelevant to the point I was making.
While athiests think that athiesm is a visual lack of physical evidence of God, in their eyes, and should be intelligently interpreted as no-god, the same physical evidence of creation all over the universe, is utilized to have been created by SOMEONE, by the believers through the revelations and confirmation of the divine scriptures. And these people by no means can be called any less intelligent , if IQ & EQ are under inspection.
It's not just a visual lack of evidence. It's a complete lack of evidence, and no, old books aren't evidence. Yes, some people try to use the fact that the universe exists as evidence that there is a creator of it, but that's a horrible argument that doesn't stand up to logic or reason.
It is quite plausible that ancient people, thousands oR millions of years ago, had sufficient intelligence to operate within their means and benefit from too, it is weird that all modern day people think that intelligence is only a recent phenomenon and can only come up with science. They did not have cars, but they had animals for travel, they hunted food for themselves, were creative enough to cook meals,make utensils, and make herbal medicines for their ailments, they took care of their families, which I think is far more intelligent, and does not in anyway strip them of any intelligence .
OK, I'm not sure why you're going on this diatribe, but you're misinterpretting what I'm saying. I'm not saying people born before the last couple of centuries were less intelligent or inferior to modern-day humans. I'm saying they didn't yet have as much knowledge about the world. This isn't a question of intelligence, but of knowledge. We simply have a lot more knowledge now than we did 500 years ago. With that knowledge come explanations of things we couldn't explain back then.
Instead of going off on a rant based on a misunderstanding, you should really read carefully, and then ask questions to clarify, if need be.
And if they thought there was someone out there who had created all the means for them to survive on Earth, and then the word of God came to affirm their thoughts, is also quite reasonable. It is just not possible for an ancient man to have thought more about a Deity then is presented to humanity about Him, in the Abraham religion books, and also to have come up with huge organized religions, with All abrahamic religions having more or less the same mention of the same Prophets, morals etc.
Actually, all of that is quite possible, and a very reasonable explanation. Humans have great imaginations. Assuming that they couldn't make stuff up about some all-powerful being and then use those things that were made up to control other people is folly. And by the way, the reason all the Abrahamic religions have such similar books, morals, mentions of prophets, etc. is that they all came from one religion. That's why they're called Abrahamic; they all came from Abraham, and branched off from there. The first Christians, including Jesus, were Jewish, and The Jewish tradition is also responsible for much of Islam.
Not going to debate on this point, but I do feel that ancient people had more emotional intelligence and wisdom (owing to their abiding by religion) than the chaotic insaneness of the modern day superficial lifestyle inspired intelligence. Anciently, there has been violence and injustices in those societies the most where religion was not being followed.
This has nothing to do with a belief in God, though. By your standards, Buddhist monks are at least as wise as anyone, since they generally don't take part in the "modern-day superficial lifestyle". You also make the mistake of claiming that that lifestyle is inspired by intelligence. That is false. And your last sentence is just blatantly false an unfounded. I'm sure that would make you feel better, but it's not even remotely true.
The definition of modern happiness starts from plastic and ends on it, looks, money, nice ride, social status, girls, and countless divorces and emotionally disturbed kids. I don't call it intelligent when people enjoy objects more than they enjoy relationships. No religion calls for cruelty, mass murder or wars, and it is really strange that secular govts of the world today, still impose wars on other people, while cornering religion as the cruel war mongering , political culprit. It is people who are corrupt, and corrupt people are found everywhere, and they have been growing significantly with the divorce that religion has suffered from the state rule, anyhow.
Oh, good, and now we're moving completely off-topic into the "put God back in the government/schools" nonsense. No, those things have not been growing with the divorce religion has suffered from the state. Again, I know it sounds good to you as a religious person, but if you leave your bias aside, and look at the situation, you will understand how false that is.
So ,the essence of what Im trying to say is, that if a person, even being a kid likes the idea of God( like I really did, and was aware of at a young age) and follows it because he hears of it, and actually sees how he benefits from it greatly on all levels of intelligence, emotions and actions, he is bound to stick to it for long.
That's great, but it has nothing to do with what I said (or what you've said in this post up until now). What I said was a child growing up in modern day who doesn't hear about God from anywhere will not end up believing in God.
Atheism, however is a stance of lesser imaginative people
:sarcastic Huh?
So, I guess not believing that leprechauns exist or that the events of Star Wars are real make me less imaginative, too, right? It has nothing to do with imagination or lack thereof. I love reading fantasy books. I create my own in my head, and hope to someday get around to writing some of them down. It's about understanding reality. Stories are a lot of fun, but you need to know when to take them seriously and literally and when not to.
totally dependent on the current legal system
Huh? I can't even make sense of this. How are we dependent on the current legal system?
( which i find really unjust to a great extent) if seen from a faith point of view, because what believers believe in; the afterlife and the day of judgment, definitely has a good effect on the believer's overall lives and thats is why they strive to remain positive, are able to forgive and forget & move on, as they hope to see a good future for themselves in the end . And they do not loose hope , even if the world has failed to bring justice to them, since they know and believe that a completely 'just' judgment is yet to come from God, which is the only one that can truly compensate. And places where people do follow some defined judgements that are outlined by God, justice prevails.
I should really be ignoring these parts, since they're really not on-topic, but I can't help it. What is unjust about our legal system?
Also, you believe that religious people who believe in an afterlife need that belief to be optimistic and to be more positive and better people. I say that's incorrect.
On the other side, there are many suicidal tendencies in athiestic people , along with severe depression and drug abuse in most, if statistics are observed. Why are they so hopeless from life?
Where are you getting these things? Can you give me any kind of support at all for these comments?
