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Atheists: What if?
- Thread starter savagewind
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Obfuscation.
Lol. I like onion s on top of my salad. No or light dressing myself. Better yet fruit.
Handle on what?
Mandarin oranges, cranberries and Chinese fried noodles!
Yummy!
Back to the OP:
It could be that the OP uncovers a fundamental misunderstanding of atheists.
All atheists or only some?
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Oh, no! Do you think he discovered the secret handshakes?
Altfish
Veteran Member
Certainly not, but I'm not sure I'd want to worship this entity. I might thank her for the work she'd done, but worship??
Thief
Rogue Theologian
That's likely how Moses felt having gone up on the mountain.
I think the old man went there to meet his Maker....and die.
It didn't work out that way...and maybe it wasn't what Moses wanted.
ooops.
I wouldn't call that experience undeniable. Unless giant stones were magically manifested then maybe.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Like this big rock you happen to be living on?
The point is it is your proof. Even if you believed it was undeniable proof most people would deny it because it is not their proof. Even staunch believers wouldn't believe you, I think. They might even think you see magic by the Devil. Haha. Now what are you going to do?
Personal experience wouldn't meet my criteria.
Do you have criteria?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
No. Not like that at all....
A I didn't witness it
B god is not needed to explain it.
You can then approach all things with some kind of explanation?
I suspect all things are the result of cause and effect.
Much of what we deal with can be explained.
But sooner or later....there will be something not quite kosher.
Then what?
btw....if personal experience is insufficient....then your witness means nothing.
Demonstratablity and repeatability.
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
So, are we talking about this hypothetical treasure trove of evidence?
Let's just assume, for poops and giggles, that archaeologists accidentally uncover an undiscovered room just filled with mountains of evidence towards the god of the Bible. It's got hunks of wood from the ark of Noah. It's got the whole cross. The Holy Grail is sitting there on a little stone box that houses the 10 commandments. There's David's slingshot. Goliath's helmet. Sampson's beard hairs. A leg bone from the leviathan. Some of Job's skin. They find a handwritten version of Paul's Epistles. A map to the garden of Eden. The basket that Moses was floated down the river in....etc etc etc.
Let's say all of this stuff is dated. It's tested and dated and then tested and dated again and it all works out. There's even some stuff in there to explain why the fossil record is all kinds of messed up when compared to this Biblical evidence...
Then yeah, we should share that with the world.
Problem is...
Let's just assume, for poops and giggles, that archaeologists accidentally uncover an undiscovered room just filled with mountains of evidence towards the god of the Bible. It's got hunks of wood from the ark of Noah. It's got the whole cross. The Holy Grail is sitting there on a little stone box that houses the 10 commandments. There's David's slingshot. Goliath's helmet. Sampson's beard hairs. A leg bone from the leviathan. Some of Job's skin. They find a handwritten version of Paul's Epistles. A map to the garden of Eden. The basket that Moses was floated down the river in....etc etc etc.
Let's say all of this stuff is dated. It's tested and dated and then tested and dated again and it all works out. There's even some stuff in there to explain why the fossil record is all kinds of messed up when compared to this Biblical evidence...
Then yeah, we should share that with the world.
Problem is...