I don't joke about suicide.
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Attention, Trump Supporters
- Thread starter Skwim
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I don't joke about suicide.
Thanks for the clarification, but I was asking for concrete examples which compare and contrast his conduct with that of all the other presidents we've had in our history.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I figured you already know all that. Just trying to help.
No you're not, but that's okay. I understand where you're coming from, and I don't hold it against you personally.
Some posters here label us "Trump supporter" merely because we voted for him in order to oppose her.
With the label based solely upon this singular historical event, it cannot be changed.
Sound stupid?
Tis a question best left unasked & unanswered.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
Support is support. You would have been better off boycotting the election.
Facing a choice between 2 evils, if one refuses to vote,
then one increases the likelihood that the greater evil
(in one's opinion) will win.
I don't criticize those who give up their vote.
But that's not a choice I'd make.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
If a lot of people don't show up to vote it will create concequences
Aye, greater power for those of us who vote.
I can live with that.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
This is not a visual to start my day. Where's the mental floss.
ecco
Veteran Member
You used the phrase "spun in such a way as to convince the public that Trump is a 'very bad man". These cartoons did not convince you that Trump is a bad man. These cartoons did not convince me that Trump is a bad man. I doubt that these cartoons convinced the people of Canada, UK, and Norway that Trump is a 'very bad man'.
Cartoons are not necessarily intended to convince, rather they are a reflection of moods and attitudes. I and many of the people of Canada, UK, and Norway already know that Trump is a 'very bad man' based on his words and deeds.
ecco
Veteran Member
Your neighbor throws garbage into your yard. Your wife and kids tell you how bad the yard is stinking up because your neighbor throws garbage into your yard. You don't confront your neighbor about him throwing garbage into your yard. But you want to bury the hatchet with him and embark on a friendly, cooperative relationship. Even as he continues to throw garbage into your yard.
Well, perhaps not by themselves, although these cartoons are part of a general trend of a smear campaign and spreading it on so thick as to make themselves unbelievable. As far as who might be convinced, I've noticed that most people just go with the flow and follow whatever political trends they see. They allow the media and peer pressure to tell them what to think. On the other hand, there are others who think for themselves and don't let their views be unduly influenced by media propaganda or the heavy-handed, overbearing types that one might find in political discussions.
Did Russia throw garbage into our yard?
Fact is, historically, we've done far more to harm them than they've done to us. So I'm not sure what you're talking about here.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
Well they sure have ****ed up a lot of things. I dont give a rats *** what your non-existent scale of morality feels about it.
My "non-existent scale of morality"? Are you being serious? Or is this just another one of your cutesy (but entertaining) one-liners?
ecco
Veteran Member
Did you just write:
the North Korean leader is manipulating him
No. Of course you didn't. I just excerpted some of your words.
Are you aware of the four minute video, made by the Administration, that was presented at the start of the Kim - Trump press conference?
Link:
I'm sure that excerpts of this are/will be shown to the people of NK. I'm sure that it will be made known that this video was made by the Trump Administration in praise of the Glorious Leader.
Are you really OK with Trump providing Kim this kind of propaganda? I guess maybe you are right, America's enemies aren't manipulating him. They don't even have to since Trump just gives them what they want.
ecco
Veteran Member
Vague? Non-specific?
Here are 25 Trump tweets - all false.
Here...
...is an article that is not vague and very specific.
If you really believe what you wrote, it can only be because you intentionally avoid the obvious truth. Like these guys...
(All emphases mine)
Watch: Rick Santorum confronted with 3,001 Trump lies, immediately tries to pivot to Obama
"Does he lie?" Cuomo pressed on.
"I don't know," Santorum responded. "He certainly says things that don't comport with the facts...I don’t like calling people liars, but the reality is this president has a problem," Santorum finally conceded.
CNN host Anderson Cooper put Ohio Representative Jim Jordan in the hot seat Monday night, grilling the conservative lawmaker on the topic of whether he'd ever heard President Donald Trump lie. After trying to deflect the question, Jordan eventually shook his head and said, "I have not."
Watch: GOP congressman who said Trump doesn't lie fumbles when confronted with evidence"I don't know," Santorum responded. "He certainly says things that don't comport with the facts...I don’t like calling people liars, but the reality is this president has a problem," Santorum finally conceded.
CNN host Anderson Cooper put Ohio Representative Jim Jordan in the hot seat Monday night, grilling the conservative lawmaker on the topic of whether he'd ever heard President Donald Trump lie. After trying to deflect the question, Jordan eventually shook his head and said, "I have not."
"I've never heard the president... He's always been square with me, that's for darn sure," Jordan said when asked if he'd heard Trump make false claims. When Cooper pressed the lawmaker on whether Trump had said untrue things to the public, Jordan attempted to deflect the question, hesitating over his answer, and then said, "I don't know of it. Nothing comes to mind."
Cooper then brought up the widely circulated compendium of the president's lies, published by The Washington Post. Jordan said he had not seen the article.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
Well for starters most people consider lying to be immoral. Politifact can provide independent statistics so you can compare Trump to Obama for instance.
ecco
Veteran Member
Are you serious?
I guess you don't believe he was behind the killing of his half brother.
I guess you don't believe a former top aide / General suddenly disappeared.
I guess you don't believe Otto Warmbier was returned in a nearly vegetative state.
I guess you don't believe NK is listed as one of the top 5 repressive nations in the world.
I'll not bother posting the "head in sand" picture again.