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The Australian fundies seem to be getting more active lately.
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Thanks FH, I had to go offline after posting that and when I came back today, you had done it.
No American Fundies have no problem blaming the people of America for their wraths of God. 911 and Katrina have been blamed on the godlessness of americans already. It looks like Australian Fundies have decided to follow america's lead and do the same for their own disasters.The next time a Katrina blows in on their back door, they'll blame Australians for that too I suppose.
The pastor is an idiot to say such things.
There has been a fair bit of coverage lately here in Australia, about American fundamentalist preachers claiming that the recent bushfires were god's punishment for a whole range of things the preachers claim are going on in Australia. One even went so far as to say he hoped "more Australian would be burned alive."
To us (Australians) this is creepy to the point where it is indistinguishable from Islamic fundamentalists calling down a jihad.
What do others think?
There has been a fair bit of coverage lately here in Australia, about American fundamentalist preachers claiming that the recent bushfires were god's punishment for a whole range of things the preachers claim are going on in Australia. One even went so far as to say he hoped "more Australian would be burned alive."
To us (Australians) this is creepy to the point where it is indistinguishable from Islamic fundamentalists calling down a jihad.
What do others think?
Those fires are caused by nature...
If people think that these bushfires which killed more than 200 people is gods wrath ....then i dont know...what is a stepp up from wrath. Major wrath? Which is coming. That would be water turning into blood, major earthquakes, plagues on a GLOBAL scale. I wonder if anybody would be able to mistake that for a coincidence. I think perhaps while the events ushered in by the trumpets in revelations take place people might still wonder..but when the bowls are poured out there will be nobody who doubts whether it is the wrath of god or not. So just be patient. You will see the wrath of god, and you will be pretty sure and confident that it is the ACTUAL wrath of god. It will be obvious.
Heneni
If people think that these bushfires which killed more than 200 people is gods wrath ....then i dont know...what is a stepp up from wrath. Major wrath? Which is coming. That would be water turning into blood, major earthquakes, plagues on a GLOBAL scale. I wonder if anybody would be able to mistake that for a coincidence. I think perhaps while the events ushered in by the trumpets in revelations take place people might still wonder..but when the bowls are poured out there will be nobody who doubts whether it is the wrath of god or not. So just be patient. You will see the wrath of god, and you will be pretty sure and confident that it is the ACTUAL wrath of god. It will be obvious.
Heneni
Thats amusing. You talk of things you have actively denied in other threads when speaking about evolution and abortion/population control. Our demise at the current rate of supply/demand will be a plague caused by the decimation of our food sources. We're standing on thin ice right now.
As for water turning into blood? Blood is healthy, it contains lots of iron
Humans are the cause of the human demise. God has nothing to do with it. If God wants to punish us for disobeying his will, he's not the God we thought he was.
The belief that our demise will be God's wrath is rather naive.
Its the same kind of argument as 'what will be proof enough for you that god exists'.
If there is not sufficient proof now that god is real (for some), then i suppose the same kind of problem would present itself with gods wrath. 'Is this proof of gods wrath'. Well if you dont believe in god then there should be not wondering. But if you do believe in god, then it presents a problem. And the thing is...that in the book of revelations it clearly says that everybody on the earth KNOWS that the wrath has come. It is ushered in by an event that makes people so afraid and scared that the hide themselves in caves and mountains. And the bible says that everybody will know its the wrath of god that has come. So....im thinking that we dont have to wonder whether these bush fires are gods wrath its not. If it was we would all know that it was.
Heneni
The book of revelations has absolutely no bearing on the facts of this discussion. If a Walt Disney story said "God is a lie," does that have any bearing on the facts?
My problem is there is sufficient evidence to support everything discussed. Why must people take a "God Stance" on everything? Why does God play a part in everything when there are actually logical alternatives? Why is a plague caused by demand for food outstripping supply due to overpopulation called Gods wrath? Do you still think earthquakes and lightning is God being angry?
We're advanced enough as a race to rule God out as a cause for our own apocalypse.
Are you having a bad day? The wrath of god is described in detail in revelation. And IN it...god help us...it says that EVERYBODY will know when the wrath has come. So since nobody is quites sure if these bush fires are from god or not ,we can savely say that it is not.
Let me check the Thread title: YES...it does say...Australian bushfires - Gods wrath?
So what? You want to keep god out of the tread?
Whatever!
Heneni
I just find it amusing that God is capable of infiltrating serious topics. Perhaps in general discussions a thread is required so we don't hear about how we're all f***** because the bible says so.