Trailblazer
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Religious morality is the only morality that matters because it originates from an infallible God...
Human morality is fallible thus subject to error.
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Baha'i Totalitarian Oligarchy?
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Human morality is fallible thus subject to error.
ppp
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Cool.
You keep bring it up the all-knowing/wisdom things because they matter to you. And you think that they should factor into my position. But even in the hypothetical where such a god does exist, they don't.
You are not using logic.
ppp
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Your god, as depicted, has immoral standards. Therefore, if he exists, then he is either fallible, or immoral.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, only because it is relevant to the conversation.
Why do you think I think that? I don't.
You have your position, I have mine, and never the twain shall meet.
It's worse than I thought, the logic I mean.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
A God that is fallible or immoral....
That is the funniest thing I have heard all year, but it is only September 21.
ppp
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There is nothing intrinsic to making things that requires goodness or competence.
Gods can be fallible. They can be immoral, too, since that's largely a matter of perspective.
That would to me, be just a reflection of the person that is fallible and immoral, a distorted perspective, to which humans are prone to do.
The One and Only God is proven by the Infallible Moral Messenger sent by God, the Messenger is the proof in Character, Life and Message for us all to Accept or reject.
If they can not be seen as proof, it is then our Infallibility, immorality and chosen perspectives that blinds us from them, all to varying degrees.
Regards Tony
I'm not reading all those randomly capitalized words. It hurts my eyes.
It's not a choice and am I'm not joking. It was seriously unpleasant to my eyes.
It's Bahaispeak. If you engage with Baha'i's you have to get used to it. They won't change.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
The God I believe in is Infallible but He is not moral, because only humans can be moral.
I believe that God sets the standards of morality for humans and reveals them through His Messengers.
Yeah, I know. That's the standard Abrahamic way of viewing things. My point is that it isn't the only way of viewing things.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No it isn't.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I never said there was.
ppp
Well-Known Member
Cool, then God can be fallible and/or immoral while being the funniest thing that you have heard all year.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I never said that. The one true God cannot be fallible or immoral.
ppp
Well-Known Member
The universe is flawed and all the religion espouse glaringly immoral points of doctrine. Therefore it follows that the "one true god" doesn't exist. Or didn't create the universe. Or both
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That the universe is flawed and all the religion espouse glaringly immoral points of doctrine is only your personal opinion, thus it does not prove anything about God.
Please tell me you understand that.