Not detecting much of the former.Unless you factor in common sense and the feelings of women.
Do the feelings of trans women matter?
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Not detecting much of the former.Unless you factor in common sense and the feelings of women.
Calling something “common sense“ is a cheap tactic to make the unjustified seem justified without providing evidence or a reasonable argument. And the nonsensical garbage you are spewing is only going to make women feel more uncomfortable.Unless you factor in common sense and the feelings of women.
Do the feelings of trans women matter?
tell us how male perps will somehow ignore this new opportunity...Calling something “common sense“ is a cheap tactic to make the unjustified seem justified without providing evidence or a reasonable argument. And the nonsensical garbage you are spewing is only going to make women feel more uncomfortable.
What "new opportunity"? A sex predator is not going to stop because transgender women are not allowed in women's facilities. Either way, nothing about this is going to make cis women more or less secure.tell us how male perps will somehow ignore this new opportunity...
I have to say, this idea that it it is ethically justifiable to discriminate against a minority because they are a minority is a disgusting perversion of utilitarian ethics.Yes, but from a utilitarian perspective, since they are outnumbered about 100,000 to 1, we must discard one-sided solutions. This is NOT to say we should ignore trans people's valid concerns. It is ONLY to say our solutions for them should not be zero sum.
The concern is that of NORMALIZING people who look like men going into women's safe spaces. Go do a search on gender ****.
I have to say, this idea that it it is ethically justifiable to discriminate against a minority because they are a minority is a disgusting perversion of utilitarian ethics.
Nope, you're still not getting it. Sure, the trans population is small and the gender **** population is smaller still.I have. We've talked about this very subject in the past. It's not convincing to me as "gender ****" is a tiny, tiny fringe group of people who don't represent trans people any more than the westboro Baptist church represents all of christianity. It's an intellectually dishonest misrepresentation
I'm not demonizing trans people. I do think the gender ****ers are being quite selfish however.Demonizing a whole people group based on slippery slope fallacies because some people feel "uncomfortable" with it ain't a compelling reason to me
Sue me.Wow, what a libelous misrepresentation of my statements!!
Nope, you're still not getting it.
Sure, the trans population is small and the gender **** population is smaller still.
But the impact that the gender ****ers can have on normalization is significant
As I'm sure you know, radical extremists can shift overton windows, correct?
I'm not demonizing trans people. I do think the gender ****ers are being quite selfish however.
And AGAIN, this is not about feeling uncomfortable. This is about feeling legitimate fear.
You saying that something is true doesn't make it true. Show me evidence of what they have done that's of any significance in the real world
Experiencing fear doesn't make that fear legitimate - hence phobias. Transphobia is a very illegitimate fear to have
Frequently, that's not how society works. Frequently, we use our noggins to make likely predictions about how an action might turn out, and we sometimes advert tragedies before they might transpire.
It's not complex: ANY ACTIONS by ANY PEOPLE that make it normal for men to enter women's safe spaces are to be avoided.
FFS - this has NOTHING to do with fear of trans people!
If it was Jews you were referring to instead of trans women I wonder if you would post such a thing.Yes, but from a utilitarian perspective, since they are outnumbered about 100,000 to 1, we must discard one-sided solutions. This is NOT to say we should ignore trans people's valid concerns. It is ONLY to say our solutions for them should not be zero sum.
Oh cool, then you have no problem trans women having the freedom to use women's restrooms
If it was Jews you were referring to instead of trans women I wonder if you would post such a thing.
I think your bias against marginalized groups is what the problem is. You still haven't explained what your problem is with trans people.What, that we should constrain ourselves from considering zero sum solutions? I don't think we should ever consider zero sum solutions, for anyone, unless and until all other options have been considered.
Perhaps we have different definitions of zero-sum???
Jazz hands hasn't worked, hmmm...
Biological men should not enter women's safe spaces.
That's what the posts appear to allude to.Ahhh ok. Those biological men just happen to be trans. Trans women like this should be forced to use mens rooms and men's locker rooms, right?
That's what the posts appear to allude to.
I sense a game...with suggestive claims
leading to inferences objected to using
plausible deniability.
Or it could simply be disorganized thinking,
& poor communication skills.