Battle of the Sci-Fi Mega Franchises

[rojse]

I'd count Dune before half of those.

I love Dune. It's one of my favourite books. However, the rest of the series is not as good, and since Kevin J Anderson got his hands on Dune, it's complete trash, now.

The movies and television series' are okay, but they are not outstanding, either.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

As much as I loved Firefly, all it has is a television series, a movie, and some comic books. It's hardly a major SF Mega-Franchise,.

It is on the edge for me but I think it will maintain momentum. But Whedon needs to lighten up on the novels. The reason there are no books is he reserves the right to approve and hasn't approved any that were offered. He could be killing his own franchise.

 

[Watchmen]

Some of those aren't even sci-fi, IMO, but westerns in space (Star Wars and Firefly).

 

[rojse]

It is on the edge for me but I think it will maintain momentum. But Whedon needs to lighten up on the novels. The reason there are no books is he reserves the right to approve and hasn't approved any that were offered. He could be killing his own franchise.

However, you want to get off on the right foot, too. You get the wrong author to do it (like Kevin J Anderson of Dune prequels fame) you have just shot your foot off. Instead of lamenting what could have been, you will know what was, and be bitterly dissapointed with the results.

If you haven't guessed yet, I hate KJA's Dune works. He should call himself a butcher, not a writer.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Some of those aren't even sci-fi, IMO, but westerns in space (Star Wars and Firefly).

All of them qualify for the label "soft" science fiction but to be honest, probably none of them could qualify for "hard" science fiction. And most definitely not military science fiction.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

However, you want to get off on the right foot, too. You get the wrong author to do it (like Kevin J Anderson of Dune prequels fame) you have just shot your foot off. Instead of lamenting what could have been, you will know what was, and be bitterly dissapointed with the results.

If you haven't guessed yet, I hate KJA's Dune works. He should call himself a butcher, not a writer.

True. Never was a Dune fan, too much economics and family history for me.

 

[rojse]

Some of those aren't even sci-fi, IMO, but westerns in space (Star Wars and Firefly).

I am not a fan of Star Wars, but it can't be simply dismissed as a western in space. There are other elements in there too, and it could not work if it was set in 18th Century Wild West.

Firefly did have Western elements in it, but then, it took from such a diverse range of genres - western, medical, survival horror, heist movies, space opera...

 

[rojse]

All of them qualify for the label "soft" science fiction but to be honest, probably none of them could qualify for "hard" science fiction. And most definitely not military science fiction.

Nothing wrong with "soft" SF, though. I've seen it used in order to present questions on morality, philosophy, society, and so forth. Or just to have fun. All are good reasons to like "soft" SF.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Nothing wrong with "soft" SF, though. I've seen it used in order to present questions on morality, philosophy, society, and so forth. Or just to have fun. All are good reasons to like "soft" SF.

Sure, I'm a fan of both.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I am not a fan of Star Wars, but it can't be simply dismissed as a western in space. There are other elements in there too, and it could not work if it was set in 18th Century Wild West.

Well, actually it can be - it doesn't share any fundamental component of what constitutes science fiction. The wild west might not be the ideal alternate location for the story, however feudal Japan would work nicely.

 

[rojse]

Well, actually it can be - it doesn't share any fundamental component of what constitutes science fiction. The wild west might not be the ideal alternate location for the story, however feudal Japan would work nicely.

And what is the "fundamental component" of science fiction?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

And what is the "fundamental component" of science fiction?

There isn't one unless you are talking about hard science fiction and then it is the science. But none of these shows qualify as hard, they are all soft and all of them qualify for that.

 

[Halcyon]

As much as I loved Firefly, all it has is a television series, a movie, and some comic books. It's hardly a major SF Mega-Franchise,.

True, but out of all the rest it's the one I enjoyed the most - it deserved to be mega.

 

[rojse]

True, but out of all the rest it's the one I enjoyed the most - it deserved to be mega.

I loved the show and the movie, too. Why good shows like Firefly get cancelled, yet Neighbours gets a twenty-season run, I have no idea.

 

[Seven]

I've gotta go with Star Trek - I mean it's in a league of it's own.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I loved the show and the movie, too. Why good shows like Firefly get cancelled, yet Neighbours gets a twenty-season run, I have no idea.

Money. I just heard that Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles got cancelled due to costs.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Ok, I in the OP I've added both Stargate and Terminator to the Mega list but I can't add them to the poll. I don't know if the Mods can do that but if so that would be nice. If I missed any more or you'd like to see more in the minors list just let me know and I'll edit them in.

 

[rojse]

Money. I just heard that Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles got cancelled due to costs.

I just spent last week watching the first season on DVD for the second time. Awesome show.

Probably not a mega-franchise though - three movies out and one upcoming, a television series, and some books.

 

[Seven]

Money. I just heard that Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles got cancelled due to costs.

Nooooooo:no::ignore:
Watching Summer playing a machine is one of the high points of my week

 

[rojse]

Nooooooo:no::ignore:
Watching Summer playing a machine is one of the high points of my week

Summer Glau was also excellent in Firefly. Two shows, two excellent roles played extremely well on her behalf.

I watch what she will do next with a great deal of interest.