I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
It's the way you disagree with these things. Your criticism is nowhere near constructive; it's straight up condemning. I don't see you suggesting ideas as to how to change anything.
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Be outraged americans!!!
- Thread starter Comet
- Start date
It's the way you disagree with these things. Your criticism is nowhere near constructive; it's straight up condemning. I don't see you suggesting ideas as to how to change anything.
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
If change was at all mentioned, I wouldn't have said anything. The statement wasn't "America needs to change"; it was just about how terrible we are. I agree there are some things that need changing, but this is still the greatest country in the world. If it came down to "love it or leave it" I'd stay right where I am.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
Well for a country that is supposed to be a beacon of light and protector of human rights, I have the to condemn what I see as hypocrisy.
I have more right than any foreigner and it is my country, my birthplace, y government, and our image.
Oh, and it is an American right to freely condemn what you feel is wrong
Maybe it is you who should leave. I hear Russia is pretty heavy handed against criticism.
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Well for a country that is supposed to be a beacon of light and protector of human rights, I have the to condemn what I see as hypocrisy.
I have more right than any foreigner and it is my country, my birthplace, y government, and our image.
Oh, and it is an American right to freely condemn what you feel is wrong
I'm good right where I am. I'm not denying your right to condemn anything, just remember that the same people you're condemning give you that right.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
Is that right? Who exactly gave me such right?
Comet
Harvey Wallbanger
We The People.... That is all that needs to be said! I see and respect all of your opinions. Yet, as an American of current times with ties to "pre-American" ties: WE MUST STAND NOW! To stand against our intrusion upon other and upon the denial of OUR RIGHTS given in the CONSTITUTION!
Comet
Harvey Wallbanger
This post is not about HATE!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't hate Americans, we ARE NOT our government! For those of you Americans who believe in YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS (like the FREEDOM OF RELIGION): Stand up! Stand with me! This is all wrong! The VOTE was wrong and against the government for/of/by the PEOPLE!
Comet
Harvey Wallbanger
I will not give up the fight! Let it be MINE and MINE ALONE! I shall STAND!!!!! Let the future know the honor it is to have the RIGHT to do so... The NSA is listening: so let it be said, "HEY! I have RIGHTS! Given by the Constitution and I will die for them! Let our children have those RIGHTS too!
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
The government of the country you live in. Not every country guarantees free speech, you know. Before you say it to be obnoxious, there's obviously no invisible force stopping you from saying whatever the hell you want to where and when you want to say it. It's just that in some places that will get you into a lot of trouble, and this isn't one of those places.
Monk Of Reason
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Well at first I was with you..but then the repeated double, triple, quadruple and quintuple posts in a row that basically repeates the message has gotten me suspcious.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
As an American, telling another American that he should shut up or leave, it is sad you seem to not know our history.
The current government does not grant us the right to condemn. Nor does it grant us any rights that we have. These rights were fortified and guaranteed to us with the creation of the constitution and bill of rights
Don't be insulting. I am not in elementary school. As you can see above, I graduated
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
As an American, telling another American that he should shut up or leave, it is sad you seem to not know our history.
The current government does not grant us the right to condemn. Nor does it grant us any rights that we have. These rights were fortified and guaranteed to us with the creation of the constitution and bill of rights
I know the Bill of Rights gave us the right to free speech; believe it or not I go to school too; I'm actually a history major until I can go to law school. That doesn't mean the current government doesn't enforce the Constitution (though some people would say otherwise). While they didn't originally give us the right (which I never said but you seem to be implying I did), they definitely protect our right to keep it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Myself, I am going to eventually leave. If I ever have my own family, I'd rather them live in a society where science is not viewed with suspicion and is viewed as a religion, where working your problems with others out means diplomatically talking your problems out instead of using your fist, where violence isn't as acceptable, and where if I have any kids I won't have to worry as much about them getting shot at school. And then there is also the issue of just how corrupt our government is. It's sickening to even be aware of just a handful of all the dirty business our government has done, and still does, both abroad and domestic. No government is perfect, but not too many nations conquer other nations and establish puppet regimes in the name of corporate interests.