Behind the killing of 8 Gazan family members

[Curious_Cat]

It seems interesting to me how so many people worldwide are unable to grasp something so simple as the fact that all wrong is not on one side of this issue and all right on the other side.

Both sides are at fault, I just cant wrap my head around why you had to give them Palestine? What did the palestinians do to the jews before the occupation? Give them Germany and Im happy that would be fair.

I dont understand why in this day and age, the biggest power shifts are based on scripture and prophecy.

 

[Sunstone]

You should take your own advice then.

I have. I suppose your notion that I haven't is yet another one of your infallible hunches.

 

[Flankerl]

I don't think the warnings exist at all. I think the whole "we are warning them" thing is nothing but propaganda to appease the conscience of their apologists and supporters. I don't for one minute believe that the victims of these murderers are given fair warning. Not for one minute.

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IDF Avoids Civilians Casualties in Gaza, Hamas Increases Them - YouTube


Warning there is a time skip at 1:10 in the following video to make it seem like the warning is just for a few seconds. The smoke in the upper window of the building disappears suddenly.

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"Knock-on-the-roof" Bombing Technique (Israeli Defense Force). - YouTube


IDF Phone call

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Recording of Phone call Warning to a Gazan Before an Airstrike - YouTube


Canceling of a airstrikes

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IDF Aircraft Calls Off Strikes to Protect Gazan Civilians - YouTube

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IDF Pilot Calls Off Airstrike After Children Spotted Near Target - YouTube


IDF leaflet from 3 days ago advising the residents of Beit Lahya that their district will be hit at 12:00. With a map to show them where they should go.

But i know what your reaction will be.

 

[Flankerl]

We can't be sure about that. There could be political reasons stopping them from doing it, like if all Palestinians are gone, some other country could bomb them without fear of hurting Palestinians because they are not there any more.

The above however is just a possible assumption just as anyone else could bring other assumptions in favor or against either side of the equation, and I could be wrong about it. I implied the possibility that Israel might not really want to do that, and I hope they really don't.

I'm trying to be neutral and think rationally here. I want this needless bloodshed to stop.

Some other country? Israel supposedly has nukes. You dont attack such a country unless you are clinical insane.

Oh wait Israel has such neighbours.


Israel could amass 90% of their artillery in front of Gaza and shell the entire place into oblivion.
But they dont.


They could carpet bomb the entire place.
But they dont.

 

[Flankerl]

I find that disturbing, If someone said the same thing about Jews it would be "anti-semetic" and here you are acting so proud about being inhumane.

Really thats your point?

What if one of the 150 was you or your family?, would it still be low casualty, sad how little you value human life.

Holy crap have all people with some basic grasp of english been banned?

Educate yourself what the "" mean. Seriously.

Just like hitlers holocaust was an utter failure. His goal wasnt met was it? I hate these double standards, and how its okay for Jews to express em.

Care to provide some documents who prove that Israeli governments plan and execute a genocide?

Also you cant bring the Holocaust example. In a few years 17 million people were murdered.
While in 66 years around 21.500 people have died in this conflict.


If thats genocide Israel is doing something wrong.

 

[Curious_Cat]

The Palestinians need to cut their **** out too. Firing rockets at Israel does nothing but provoke them into more human rights atrocities.

I have a different stance. I wish the resistance never ends. If someone came and took my home from me in Australia based on events in europe, I would resist forever. Its easy to judge them sitting thousands of miles away. Put yourself in their shoes and you would be stocking up on rocket launchers too.

 

[Curious_Cat]

Really thats your point?

My point is stop being arrogant and proud of a stolen land.

Holy crap have all people with some basic grasp of english been banned?

Educate yourself what the "" mean. Seriously.

:help::ignore:

Care to provide some documents who prove that Israeli governments plan and execute a genocide?

Closing all the borders and bombing them if that isnt genocide then what is?

Also you cant bring the Holocaust example. In a few years 17 million people were murdered.
While in 66 years around 21.500 people have died in this conflict.

Why the F not? were the 17 million killed by palestinians? Give it another 50 years and the holocaoust wont be an excuse anymore.

If thats genocide Israel is doing something wrong.

No they arent they are just smart about it and doing it gradually. Apartheid/second class cirtizens, everything that is inhumane seems to be ok in Israel. I sincerely hope the occupation ends during my lifetime.

 

[Flankerl]

You invade my country, for something I never did to you, rockets are nothing give em nukes!

"Location: Perth"

How is it living on stolen land? But let me guess, you are obviously an Aboriginal. Has to be. What are the chances.

Stand up for yourself. Dont kill innocent people who are trapped in open air concentration camps with nowhere to escape. Lock em in n kill em. Thats called standing up for yourself.

You know if Hamas hadnt completely alienated Egypt they might have kept the Rafah crossing open.

I have a different stance. I wish the resistance never ends. If someone came and took my home from me in Australia based on events in europe, I would resist forever

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I don't know which conflict you are talking about. But we are talking about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict here. Are all Jews involved in this conflict or support it? I think not.

A synagogue in Paris was attacked yesterday. Only a handful of police officers and JDL members(whom i dont even like before you even try something with that) stopped them from storming the place. Though they tried to set it on fire with molotov cocktails.

Last friday just before the Shabbat was the Rabbi of the Community in Casablanca beaten up that he had to be hospitalised. Several ribs broken. An old man.

"People"(read muslims) are demonstrating all over Europe while chanting "death to the Jews"


I dont know i feel pretty involved right now.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

But i know what your reaction will be.

No. My reaction is: Why target civilian residences in the first place?

 

[Curious_Cat]

Some other country? Israel supposedly has nukes. You dont attack such a country unless you are clinical insane.

Oh wait Israel has such neighbours.


Israel could amass 90% of their artillery in front of Gaza and shell the entire place into oblivion.
But they dont.


They could carpet bomb the entire place.
But they dont.

Because if they did then Pakistan would get involved (Nukes a nuke will f israel up).so would every other Muslim nation. But I like the strategy in the middle east, get rid of em one by one starting with Iraq, Syria, Iran maybe Pakistan later on.

 

[Sunstone]

...everything that is inhumane seems to be ok in Israel.

Glad to see there's no demonization of Israel going on here.

I sincerely hope the occupation ends during my lifetime.

Well, that makes two of us.

 

[MD]

Because if they did then Pakistan would get involved (Nukes a nuke will f israel up).so would every other Muslim nation. But I like the strategy in the middle east, get rid of em one by one starting with Iraq, Syria, Iran maybe Pakistan later on.

I'd love to see Pakistan get involved and then see India invade Pakistan from the rear :yes:.

Hey curious_cat I hear ISIS is looking for brides, you should join. I think you'd make a fine addition.

 

[Curious_Cat]

"Location: Perth"

How is it living on stolen land? But let me guess, you are obviously an Aboriginal. Has to be. What are the chances.

Spot on mate. Have Aboriginal blood. Heard of the black flag movement?

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I didnt know german exiles had anything to laugh about. Longest lol ive seen ever..laugh out loud laugh out loud..cmon how immature do you have to be..or is your 5 year old typing for you?

"People"(read muslims) are demonstrating all over Europe while chanting "death to the Jews"

Im not Muslim and dont agree with death to Jews maybe death to Jews in Israel ( I joke)., Im actually leaning towards Judaism but this proud Zionism puts me off.

 

[MD]

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No im too busy sleeping with your dad and mom, even tho they a lousy shag

You really should consider it, and you're not aboriginal. You're a Pakistani dude you talk just like one, you're not some atheist chick from Australia.

 

[Flankerl]

My point is stop being arrogant and proud of a stolen land.

"Location: Perth"

:help::ignore:

Thats weak. We have better anti-zionists on this forum who'd at least give me some incoherent sentences and not just some smilies.

Closing all the borders and bombing them if that isnt genocide then what is?

Yeah like when the Tutsi and moderate Hutu were massacred. They were massacred so hard that their numbers didnt fall, no they actually multiplied.

A genocide is basically the best thing for a country with few people. Everyone knows that.

Btw there is a border crossing to Egypt, controlled by Egypt, closed by Egypt. Fly to Egypt and protest against that.
As we wont see each other again: Good luck.

Why the F not? were the 17 million killed by palestinians? Give it another 50 years and the holocaoust wont be an excuse anymore.

So you dont see a difference between industrialised murder that cost the life of Seventeen million(17.000.000) people in not even 4 years and a conflict that cost 21.500 lives(Israeli and Palestinian) in 66 years?

Obvious troll much?

No they arent they are just smart about it and doing it gradually. Apartheid/second class cirtizens, everything that is inhumane seems to be ok in Israel. I sincerely hope the occupation ends during my lifetime.

Yeah i also hope that the Aborigines end the occupation.

Because if they did then Pakistan would get involved (Nukes a nuke will f israel up).so would every other Muslim nation. But I like the strategy in the middle east, get rid of em one by one starting with Iraq, Syria, Iran maybe Pakistan later on.

Pakistan nuking Israel? Hey genius what do you think would India do when they'd witness activity at Pakistani nuclear facilities?

Yeah i wouldnt do that if i were Pakistan. Them Hindus be crazy.

Spot on mate. Have Aboriginal blood. Heard of the black flag movement?




I didnt know german exiles had anything to laugh about. Longest lol ive seen ever..laugh out loud laugh out loud..cmon how immature do you have to be..or is your 5 year old typing for you?





Im not Muslim and dont agree with death to Jews maybe death to Jews in Israel ( I joke)., Im actually leaning towards Judaism but this proud Zionism puts me off.

Ahh of course.

Reminds me how americans turn "iam super native american myself" when its about their difficult topics.

No. My reaction is: Why target civilian residences in the first place?

Holy ****: Where do you think the rockets and mortars are kept?

In the official Hamas storage facility in an fenced off area?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I don't care which side you are on, any attack of a civilian population whether it be Palestinian or Israeli is a human rights violation and a war crime. And that's what many of you are doing, you are justifying human rights violations and war crimes no matter which side you are taking.

Yes the Palestinians did fire rockets at Israeli civilian centers, that is a war crimes and a human rights violation.

Yes, the Israelis are attacking in reprisal, targeting civilian residences, schools and medical centers, that is a war crime and a human rights violation.

Please try to justify your justifying of war crimes. I want to see this.

 

[MD]

:clap

No im too busy sleeping with your dad and mom, even tho they a lousy shag.

I have no interest in your biased take on ****. India would get involved then China would **** India up..ooooh nooo..anyways IMO if one nuke drops all of them do and thats it the end of the world as we know it.

You have too much faith in China, China just banned Ramadan. You think it would get involved in a muslim war? India will **** up Pakistan nicely if it launches nukes.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Holy ****: Where do you think the rockets and mortars are kept?

In the official Hamas storage facility in an fenced off area?

Human Rights Watch and other organization have said there is no actual proof that weapons were stored in civilian residences targeted. You just do not get to bomb a civilian residence just because you think they have rockets there. It is a war crime.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Some other country? Israel supposedly has nukes. You dont attack such a country unless you are clinical insane.

Oh wait Israel has such neighbours.


Israel could amass 90% of their artillery in front of Gaza and shell the entire place into oblivion.
But they dont.


They could carpet bomb the entire place.
But they dont.

Why lose their human shield "the Palestinians" since they already have it? Armies always keep as much defense lines as possible.

You fail to see the point of my posts. I'm not saying that Israel really has the intention to commit a genocide yet you're saying that they, an invading force that already killed so many of the occupied natives, really, for certain and absolutely don't want to do it.

I could be wrong so could you. We both are bystanders here that don't know how politics work, specially invading ones. Well, unless maybe you know all of the Israeli intelligence.

Anyways, I do hope your opinion is right and mine is wrong. All I want is to stop that needless bloodshed. Hmm, I wonder how many times I said that.

 

[Curious_Cat]

You really should consider it, and you're not aboriginal. You're a Pakistani dude you talk just like one, you're not some atheist chick from Australia.

Do you want to see a picture of my aboriginal vagina?

I have nothing more to say to you :sorry1: You bring nothing to the discussion except pakistani hatred.. Im not from pakistan I just didnt like you generalising a whole country in the other thread. just like you spoke on behalf of Afghans, Bengalis, Sikhs, everyone is different. you just butthurt about partition.

Im going to ignore you now..stick a thumb in your bum, will make you feel better. :yes: