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Ben Affleck As Batman?

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think my favorite part of the Batman costume is the gauntlets. I wish everybody wore gauntlets!
Then you'll love this fact about his gauntlets (for Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises, total spoilers):

Batman defeated all three main villains with his gauntlets in the final fights of those three movies, essentially.

-In Batman Begins, in the final train fight scene, Batman shattered Ghul's katana by catching it in the spikes of his gauntlets and then ripping it apart. He then used part of the broken blade to disable the train from being able to stop, so when Gordon destroyed the track, Batman got out of the train and Ghul died.

-In The Dark Knight, the Joker had Batman pinned at the climax, but he surprised the Joker by launching his projectile Gauntlet spikes into him and then threw him off the building.

-In The Dark Knight Rises, when Batman is fighting Bane at the climax, Bane maintains the advantage in the fight until Batman manages to break part of Bane's mask with one of his gauntlet spikes. At that point, it entirely turns to Batman's favor as he continues to break Bane's mask and beat him up.

:D
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Many of the more commercially succesfull ones are. Batman, like Wolverine, has been damaged by its own success. Too much exposition, too many simultaneous conflicting yet canonical takes on the character, too many concessions to commercial reality.

The character obviously resonates with and pleases a lot of people, though. If I had to guess, it may be in part because there is just so much of him around that those seeking a particular take on him can easily satisfy themselves. Also, ever since the mid-1980s he has been specifically shaped to appeal to an individualistic mindset that happened to grown at that time.
I think at a certain level, there's no such thing as a deep character. Most characters seem pretty simple to me, in any medium.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
If you recall it so well, you would recall the main reason I said I'm not Batman was that I'm a woman. :p Acting chops aside, I think I'd have a bit of a time with the wardrobe. I don't think I could pull this off:
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Now, put me in the the role of Catwoman or Poison Ivy...we may have something. ;)

What about Batgirl/Oracle?
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
Well, Batman is my favorite superhero and Superman is my least favorite. In fact, I haven't enjoyed any Superman movie that I've ever seen (although I haven't seen MOS). He's just way too generic and tacky. So, yeah, I might just skip on this one too.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Well, Batman is my favorite superhero and Superman is my least favorite. In fact, I haven't enjoyed any Superman movie that I've ever seen (although I haven't seen MOS). He's just way too generic and tacky. So, yeah, I might just skip on this one too.

Superman's my favorite superhero. He's so dreamy. :faint:
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, Batman is my favorite superhero and Superman is my least favorite. In fact, I haven't enjoyed any Superman movie that I've ever seen (although I haven't seen MOS). He's just way too generic and tacky. So, yeah, I might just skip on this one too.
I didn't like any of the previous Superman movies, and I loved Man of Steel.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Well, Batman is my favorite superhero and Superman is my least favorite. In fact, I haven't enjoyed any Superman movie that I've ever seen (although I haven't seen MOS). He's just way too generic and tacky. So, yeah, I might just skip on this one too.

Well, Supes hasn't been very well-represented in Hollywood.

However, in the animated DCU, as well as some of the comics, he's much more interesting.

If you can get your hands on it, I recommend checking out All-Star Superman, and Superman: Red Son. The former is a series of excellent stories (though the first one is the one I think is most interesting), and the latter is a great, thought-provoking what if story wherein Kal-El doesn't land in rural Kansas, but in the Soviet Union.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I thought the first half was great (though I HATED Mr. Kent, frankly), but thought the second half was weak.
I liked all of it except for when they fought the World Engine, which felt repetitive and bland. Everything else was great, imo.

Well, Supes hasn't been very well-represented in Hollywood.

However, in the animated DCU, as well as some of the comics, he's much more interesting.

If you can get your hands on it, I recommend checking out All-Star Superman, and Superman: Red Son. The former is a series of excellent stories (though the first one is the one I think is most interesting), and the latter is a great, thought-provoking what if story wherein Kal-El doesn't land in rural Kansas, but in the Soviet Union.
He's great in the DC animated universe. Especially in Justice League, where they use him sparingly.

Are you referring to the All-Star Superman comics series, or the animated movie they made of that series? The movie I thought was kinda bad, because they condensed a whole series into a short film and it felt rushed with awkward pacing. I liked most of the other Superman/JL animated movies though.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I liked all of it except for when they fought the World Engine, which felt repetitive and bland. Everything else was great, imo.

To each their own.

He's great in the DC animated universe. Especially in Justice League, where they use him sparingly.

Are you referring to the All-Star Superman comics series, or the animated movie they made of that series? The movie I thought was kinda bad, because they condensed a whole series into a short film and it felt rushed with awkward pacing. I liked most of the other Superman/JL animated movies though.

Well, I haven't read the All-Star Superman comic, but I did mean the movie, which I enjoyed.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I didn't like any of the previous Superman movies, and I loved Man of Steel.

I liked Superman 1 and 2 (of course watching them years later as an adult, they do lose something, but they're still good). Man of Steel was not very good. If they had followed through on what they attempted, it would have been excellent, but they fell short. A lot of my problem with it is that they sort of started some themes but didn't finish them. They ended up taking the easy way out on anything more profound than Superman vs. Zod.

Possible spoilers:

One thing I was very disappointed with was the idea of him not being at home anywhere. Zod tried to gain his support at the end by giving him the option of letting him rebuild Krypton. He played on the idea that Kal-El wouldn't feel at home on Earth. It could have worked very well, and been an agonizing choice for Superman, had they spent time building it up through the movie. They could have really played up the fact that he felt out of place and longed for a society he'd fit into. They touched on it, but not enough to make you really feel how agonizing it would be to have to destroy the only chance you'd ever have of living in a place where you fit in.

I had many other problems, but that's one of the more poignant examples of my main problem.
 
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