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Ben Carson lies about his past

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yawn <ignore> yawn
I don't see why anyone cares about Carson anyway. He won't be in the race.
The Republican party has too many policies that are against him. Starting from the "Southern Strategy" of scooping up all the conservative Christian racists to the gerrymandering to the appeals to the most extremist elements, he'll be out of the race as soon as he has done his job of making the Republican party appear less bigoted than they used to be.

Rather like Sanders will be out when the Clinton Machine doesn't need him to give the illusion that she is not the Democratic party nominee and a centrist.
Tom
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
I don't see why anyone cares about Carson anyway. He won't be in the race.
The Republican party has too many policies that are against him. Starting from the "Southern Strategy" of scooping up all the conservative Christian racists to the gerrymandering to the appeals to the most extremist elements, he'll be out of the race as soon as he has done his job of making the Republican party appear less bigoted than they used to be.

Rather like Sanders will be out when the Clinton Machine doesn't need him to give the illusion that she is not the Democratic party nominee and a centrist.
Tom

Even Fox is turning on him.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well maybe Hillary is trying to atone from saying that the problems in the VA are not as widespread as everyone says. Of course her spin doctors are trying to spin that one. Don't know how their going to spin the USMC story. But we all know she means well
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LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
Well maybe Hillary is trying to atone from saying that the problems in the VA are not as widespread as everyone says. Of course her spin doctors are trying to spin that one. Don't know how their going to spin the USMC story. But we all know she means well
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Honestly I don't like Hillary at all. She's too corporate, she's a slacker in terms of rights with people or just gives lip service, she's a war hawk. If we have her it would be ridiculous with the drama and nothing getting done. So no I don't want her to be in the race. I'd rather have Bernie or even O'Malley.

And anyone who has paid attention to the VA over the years knows there's serious issues. Why would you deny it? Good grief. There's so much documentation of the issues that the VA is facing. Didn't John Kerry try to talk about it before and he went unnoticed?
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well maybe Hillary is trying to atone from saying that the problems in the VA are not as widespread as everyone says. Of course her spin doctors are trying to spin that one. Don't know how their going to spin the USMC story. But we all know she means well
rolling.gif

Honestly I don't like Hillary at all. She's too corporate, she's a slacker in terms of rights with people or just gives lip service, she's a war hawk. If we have her it would be ridiculous with the drama and nothing getting done. So no I don't want her to be in the race. I'd rather have Bernie or even O'Malley.

And anyone who has paid attention to the VA over the years knows there's serious issues. Why would you deny it? Good grief. There's so much documentation of the issues that the VA is facing. Didn't John Kerry try to talk about it before and he went unnoticed?

Hey, I'm a veteran and I'm not denying their are major problems with the VA, I know there are major problems with the VA. It's Hilliary that I'm pissed at. She tried to make a serious problem with the VA a political statement by basically saying it is only the Republicans attempting to make this an issue when it is not. Her spin doctors are attempting get her out of trouble again.
The sarcasm (as portrayed by the emoticon) is her embellishing of her past, like her being under sniper fire in Bosnia. Gee isn't the anti-Carson mobs trying to crucify Carson for what may or may not be embellishing, yet we hear hardly a peep about Hillary in Bosnia and now saying she tried to join the USMC.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
Hey, I'm a veteran and I'm not denying their are major problems with the VA, I know there are major problems with the VA. It's Hilliary that I'm pissed at. She tried to make a serious problem with the VA a political statement by basically saying it is only the Republicans attempting to make this an issue when it is not. Her spin doctors are attempting get her out of trouble again.
The sarcasm (as portrayed by the emoticon) is her embellishing of her past, like her being under sniper fire in Bosnia. Gee isn't the anti-Carson mobs trying to crucify Carson for what may or may not be embellishing, yet we hear hardly a peep about Hillary in Bosnia and now saying she tried to join the USMC.

That's what I'm saying. Like, why would you deny something that everyone pretty much knows? And meh I don't think Bosnia is an issue anymore for her. If she is the nominee right wingers will bring up everything of her past. Except probably that she was a Goldwater girl. The liberals would bring that one up. We heard plenty about Hillary and Bosnia when the original thing happened. That was sometime ago. But don't worry. Like I said, republicans will bring up everything of her past and present (except of her being a Goldwater girl in college). They want it so badly. They have this unhealthy obsession with her honestly speaking. It's really actually quite creepy to me how they so hate this one person who isn't the worst person in the world. She's not perfect and a corportaist and a war hawk and all that but she's just like many other politicians out there. It's just weird to me.

What's the USMC?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The single biggest problem with the VA is a general lack of adequate funding, and this problem has been going on for decades but has grown since we have many, many thousands of our vets that have been coming back with serious health and mental problems. Also, a large part of the funding not keeping up with the need can be laid at the feet of medical inflation. The logjam of unprocessed forms is still being dealt with but has been a very tall mountain to climb.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The single biggest problem with the VA is a general lack of adequate funding, and this problem has been going on for decades but has grown since we have many, many thousands of our vets that have been coming back with serious health and mental problems. Also, a large part of the funding not keeping up with the need can be laid at the feet of medical inflation. The logjam of unprocessed forms is still being dealt with but has been a very tall mountain to climb.
So is it just a minor issue as Hillary has stated or is it a wide spread issue? Just asking.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So is it just a minor issue as Hillary has stated or is it a wide spread issue? Just asking.
No, I think it's major in the sense that it definitely needs to be fixed. My father was in the VA system in Battle Creek as a patient for two years a bit over 10 years ago, and they took wonderful care of him there (he had Alzheimers). I talked to one of the directors there, and he was not a happy camper as he complained of the VA in general and also there being underfunded in terms of of the numbers of patients they had to deal with plus an aging facility that clearly needed both updating and some basic repairs.
 
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