Bernie Sanders

[Jollybear]

How about you learn to do your own research?

Incredable! It never fails. I dont know why i bother coming on these forums.

I do and have and still do my OWN research. And man made climate change is exegerated BS.

The purpose of the forum is to discuss differences. I differ from you, you differ from me. We then debate or discuss those differences on the subject.

Make sense?

 

[Jollybear]

If you have to ask, then your former statement ("I do read") must be false. Or perhaps you read without comprehension?

Oh no, i do read, that isnt false. Thats very much true. I got nothing to gain in lying about that.

Secondly, i do comprehend as well.

And my research has led me to conclude man made climate change is.....in fact.....bs.

But, hey, you wanna discuss it?

Probably not, lol.

 

[Lyndon]

Incredable! It never fails. I dont know why i bother coming on these forums.

I do and have and still do my OWN research. And man made climate change is exegerated BS.

The purpose of the forum is to discuss differences. I differ from you, you differ from me. We then debate or discuss those differences on the subject.

Make sense?

There's no point in debating people who spout nonsense!!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Nice to know your psychic. You know that i havent looked into climate change? Um......how do you "know" this now?

From your comments, of course.

For the record, "looking into something" is not synonymous with "reading lots of web articles that agree with my side, and ignoring those on the other side." You want to understand anything, you have to look at the evidence and arguments presented on all sides. Then you have to sort out which arguments on side against the other, are logically valid, and which are not. For example, ignoring a presented fact, and substituting with another (even true) fact, which does not necessarily apply, is logically invalid.

 

[Prometheus85]

I do read. And manmade global warming is exaggerated nonsense.

This is why debating with u is useless. When there's no logical way for u to refute a point, you use an illogical one.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Oh no, i do read, that isnt false. Thats very much true. I got nothing to gain in lying about that.

Secondly, i do comprehend as well.

And my research has led me to conclude man made climate change is.....in fact.....bs.

But, hey, you wanna discuss it?

Probably not, lol.

Start here...(source How We Know Global Warming is Real)

 

[Prometheus85]

Oh no, i do read, that isnt false. Thats very much true. I got nothing to gain in lying about that.

Secondly, i do comprehend as well.

And my research has led me to conclude man made climate change is.....in fact.....bs.

But, hey, you wanna discuss it?

Probably not, lol.

simply saying climate change is man made BS doesn’t make it true. Besides every one with a functioning brain knows climate change is not BS. But I’m curious, do u have any evidence to back up your claim?

 

[Jollybear]

There's no point in debating people who spout nonsense!!

Well, why do you come on a debate forum for? To debate people who agree with you?

Lol, come on man! Get with the program!

From your comments, of course.

For the record, "looking into something" is not synonymous with "reading lots of web articles that agree with my side, and ignoring those on the other side." You want to understand anything, you have to look at the evidence and arguments presented on all sides. Then you have to sort out which arguments on side against the other, are logically valid, and which are not. For example, ignoring a presented fact, and substituting with another (even true) fact, which does not necessarily apply, is logically invalid.

And again.....you must be psychic because how do you "know" i havent done looking at both sides?

Start here...(source How We Know Global Warming is Real)

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Ok, ill "start there" and get back to you. Fair enough?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Oh no, i do read, that isnt false. Thats very much true. I got nothing to gain in lying about that.

Secondly, i do comprehend as well.

And my research has led me to conclude man made climate change is.....in fact.....bs.

But, hey, you wanna discuss it?

Probably not, lol.

So you must understand that human activities such as fossil fuel use and deforestation unbalance the Carbon Cycle and the effect that atmospheric methane has in trapping heat?

 

[Jollybear]

simply saying climate change is man made BS doesn’t make it true.

Well of course just saying man made global warming is BS dont make it true. But the discussion has to start somehow.

And just saying man made climate change is real ALSO does NOT make it true.

Understand?

Besides every one with a functioning brain knows climate change is not BS.

No, its the other way around actually. But, atleast im willing to discuss the issues, unlike you all who just like to preach your opinions.

But I’m curious, do u have any evidence to back up your claim?

Yes, lots. So much, i dont know where to start. So, im gonna start in that article the other guy gave. And im gonna look at it and respond back to him. Mayby tonight or tomorow.

Im not in any rush.

 

[Stanyon]

Bernie won't make the cut and I think we all know that. He also thinks that people with more money for advertising than he does shouldn't be allowed to run.

 

[Jollybear]

So you must understand that human activities such as fossil fuel use and deforestation unbalance the Carbon Cycle and the effect that atmospheric methane has in trapping heat?

Yea, i have certainly heard that. But i think its overly exagerated.

The climate system is very, very complicated. Its not as simple as carbon and methane go up to the atmosphere and get trapped and the planet gets warmer. Its more complicated then that.

 

[Prometheus85]

Well of course just saying man made global warming is BS dont make it true. But the discussion has to start somehow.

And just saying man made climate change is real ALSO does NOT make it true.

Understand?



No, its the other way around actually. But, atleast im willing to discuss the issues, unlike you all who just like to preach your opinions.



Yes, lots. So much, i dont know where to start. So, im gonna start in that article the other guy gave. And im gonna look at it and respond back to him. Mayby tonight or tomorow.

Im not in any rush.

saying man made climate change is real doesn’t make it true? Are u aware of the overwhelming evidence that’s says it’s happening and we are causing it? Didn’t u say u do read? Judging form your post I don’t think that’s true. Perhaps u do read? But it’s most likely from climate denying websites.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol....no, the reason wer not doing anything about climate change is because man made climate change is BS.

And secondly, if we did do anything about it, like ban fossil fuels, we would destroy the economy and that would lead to civil unrest and the death tole of billions of people. Not millions, BILLIONS!

No, not BS. Sadly you do not even have a middle school level of scientific literacy. But you could learn. First you would need to u understand the Greenhouse Effect.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yea, i have certainly heard that. But i think its overly exagerated.

The climate system is very, very complicated. Its not as simple as carbon and methane go up to the atmosphere and get trapped and the planet gets warmer. Its more complicated then that.

Only slightly. There is no debate that increasing carbon dioxide will raise the temperature, climate deniers can only claim it is not as much as predicted.

 

[Revoltingest]

Bernie Sanders with best answer of the dem debate. The reason we’re not doing anything about climate change is not because we don’t have the political will, it’s because the fossil fuel companies buy off our politicians. They keep profits & pass off the costs to us.

Bernie is just pushing that conspiracy theory in a desperate bid to win nomination.
If he had any evidence...names, places, money transfers....he'd provide the info.

A better explanation is that the leaders either don't believe it's urgent or they just
don't care. Proof? Watch them travel. A typical Obama family of 4 vacation in
Hawaii burned 100,000 gallons of jet fuel. (And his base was OK with that.)
Trump, Pelosi...you name'm. I don't see personal carbon footprints being reigned in.
They only preach reducing someone else's.

 

[Father Heathen]

Lol....no, the reason wer not doing anything about climate change is because man made climate change is BS.

So you think that it's more likely that every single scientist is just making stuff up for absolutely no reason than businesses lobbying to protect their profits? What braindead nonsense.

 

[Father Heathen]

Bernie is just pushing that conspiracy theory in a desperate bid to win nomination.
If he had any evidence...names, places, money transfers....he'd provide the info.

A better explanation is that the leaders either don't believe it's urgent or they just
don't care. Proof? Watch them travel. A typical Obama family of 4 vacation in
Hawaii burned 100,000 gallons of jet fuel. (And his base was OK with that.)
Trump, Pelosi...you name'm. I don't see personal carbon footprints being reigned in.
They only preach reducing someone else's.

So lobbying is a "conspiracy theory" and doesn't actually occur? Businesses would never try to influence politicians to protect their interests. No, it's that all of the world's scientists are part of the illuminati, collaborating on the most convoluted yet pointless prank ever?

 

[Father Heathen]

No, not BS. Sadly you do not even have a middle school level of scientific literacy. But you could learn. First you would need to u understand the Greenhouse Effect.

The problem with learning is that it requires both willingness and effort. The reason narratives such as his are popular is because it's auto-pilot/easy mode for the brain.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Yea, i have certainly heard that. But i think its overly exagerated.

The climate system is very, very complicated. Its not as simple as carbon and methane go up to the atmosphere and get trapped and the planet gets warmer. Its more complicated then that.

Climate systems are complex. So if you have researched enough to understand them, it is likely you have more than "heard" about the more basic concepts.